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10 Scarlet Questions from Joseph Hutson

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There is a threaded ring at the base of the connector and a matching thread on the socket side on the transmitter/receiver.

Thanks Cail. That seems like the kind of connector to prevent unwanted disconnects. Ideally though, the female part on the camera should allow the use of either locking or standard mini-plugs.
 
Base I/O module provides HD-SDI out, SMPTE timecode and gen-lock, and GPIO interface for remote contact closure controls programmable through menus, plus the audio connections. Maybe other things too. It is a lot more than just an audio interface, duplicating most of the I/O connections as they exist on a RED ONE.
Does this mean that with the $4,750 base kit fixed Scarlet doesn't have timecode?
 
Does this mean that with the $4,750 base kit fixed Scarlet doesn't have timecode?

It almost certainly has timecode, it just can't jam sync. My educated guess.

Jeff
 
Does this mean that with the $4,750 base kit fixed Scarlet doesn't have timecode?

IIRC, the $6k ex-1 doesn't have timecode, you have to upgrade to the ex-3 for that.
 
IIRC, the $6k ex-1 doesn't have timecode, you have to upgrade to the ex-3 for that.

Exactly. So why would you pay $6000 for an inferior camera when you can get a scarlet for $1250 cheaper?

An example: The new canon XF305 (the tapeless version of my XH-A1) is $6999. The only upside to that camera is that it has XLR ports (in my sense of reasoning).

HI-HO SCARLET, RELEASE PLEASE
 
Again, all cameras have timecode, usually run time and 24 hour clock. Even without the ability to jam synch, you can auto synch then slide it a few frames for the difference. INFINITELY faster than hunting around. As long as the clip has some sort of Time Code, I am happy, and even if it doesn't, my assistant editor is the only one who suffers ;-P

Jeff
 
Exactly. So why would you pay $6000 for an inferior camera when you can get a scarlet for $1250 cheaper?

Beats the heck out of me. But hey, I don't understand why people are spending mucho $$ on custom PL mounts for DSLRs and sticking Panavision glass on them when, if you can afford Panny glass, you can afford the Red One. Personal bias, maybe? But I love it, cause it means the DSLRs will hold their resale value when the Scarlet's released. XD
 
Beats the heck out of me. But hey, I don't understand why people are spending mucho $$ on custom PL mounts for DSLRs and sticking Panavision glass on them when, if you can afford Panny glass, you can afford the Red One. Personal bias, maybe? But I love it, cause it means the DSLRs will hold their resale value when the Scarlet's released. XD

I almost made a pic of one of those as my desktop for laughs! like a chevy nova with a Rocket Engine on the roof.
 
Exactly. So why would you pay $6000 for an inferior camera when you can get a scarlet for $1250 cheaper?

An example: The new canon XF305 (the tapeless version of my XH-A1) is $6999. The only upside to that camera is that it has XLR ports (in my sense of reasoning).

HI-HO SCARLET, RELEASE PLEASE

Simple reason - You could buy the EX1 in 2008, whereas you still can't buy a Scarlet. Do remember that Sony have already announced interchangeable lens large frame camcorders. The landscape will be quite different end of this year. For certain, the Scarlet will have its share of competitors, it's a matter of when. As of now, it does look that there's nothing anywhere near as desirable as Scarlet, but don't underestimate the big companies. They have probably had Scarlet competitors in development since 2008 and will likely announce them out of the blue.
 
Simple reason - You could buy the EX1 in 2008, whereas you still can't buy a Scarlet. Do remember that Sony have already announced interchangeable lens large frame camcorders. The landscape will be quite different end of this year. For certain, the Scarlet will have its share of competitors, it's a matter of when. As of now, it does look that there's nothing anywhere near as desirable as Scarlet, but don't underestimate the big companies. They have probably had Scarlet competitors in development since 2008 and will likely announce them out of the blue.

Large sensors or not, I don't expect any of the big boys to release cameras under $10k that shoot above HD resolution. So far all that has been announced is sub-sampled long GOP AVCHD cameras and they are not out yet either.
 
Large sensors or not, I don't expect any of the big boys to release cameras under $10k that shoot above HD resolution. So far all that has been announced is sub-sampled long GOP AVCHD cameras and they are not out yet either.

True, at this time it doesn't look like we are getting any 3K or 4K cameras under $10k anytime soon. Or anything even close to Scarlet. But who knows? The industry can change with a single announcement. As a consumer, I certainly hope Red has some solid competition. But yeah, that is hopeful, as it this point, Scarlet is untouchable.
 
Hey David, In terms of lens correction, ill try and show you this weekend.

I guess a few of us are looking forward to this weekends Scarlet footage.

A tribute: the brownish/greyish low light gradients in the saloon images from m-x looked gorgeous noise-wise.

A challenge: show us a little of the same in similar conditions from the 2/3s sensor.

I guess we'll see less perfection, but I am very open to be proven wrong or less right than expected :yesnod:

and thanks beforehand, T.
 
What would be great is to see some outdoor footage of the 2/3" Scarlet, at the wide angle of the fixed lens. Most of all the samples are studio shoots : they're beautiful but some natural light landscapes usually show the Red sensors at their best. And Jarred is a pretty darn good shooter, so I'm sure it will be gorgeous as always.
 

7 Will the read/reset of the 2/3 be on par with the epic?

The read/reset will be on par to the read/reset times of EPIC S35.

Now, does that mean that there will be more wobble/skew because the sensor is smaller? I was under the impression that read reset times on smaller sensors had to be faster to mitigate rolling shutter artifacts.
 
Now, does that mean that there will be more wobble/skew because the sensor is smaller? I was under the impression that read reset times on smaller sensors had to be faster to mitigate rolling shutter artifacts.

Given that they have a goal of getting it down to about 5ms on the Epic (and I think they are close) - and film is effectively about 4ms - I am not sure how much better they can do. Not sure how the sensor size plays in, though. I'd be curious, too.
 
Now, does that mean that there will be more wobble/skew because the sensor is smaller? I was under the impression that read reset times on smaller sensors had to be faster to mitigate rolling shutter artifacts.

Not true. Read/reset time is the only important metric. Sensor size doesn't matter. There is a wonderful example of the effect in a photograph taken with a large-format still camera with a focal-plane (slit) shutter in 1913 by J H Lartigue.

jacques_henry_lartigue.jpg


(image from photography-now.net)

As you see, a really large sensor (or in this case negative) doesn't eliminate the rolling shutter. Only the speed of the shutter and the speed of the subject relative to the camera matter.
 
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