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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Scarlet and Epic updates...

Jannard said:
Not surprisingly... :-)

Jim
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Oops! I thought my scam was obvious :sarcasm:
Yours was not, I still believe Santa highjacked your account and started this thread :)

The Red story is so amazing that ongoing scepticism makes me laugh. It has to do more with fear of change I guess. On November 13th, add a link to the book "Where's my cheese?", that will help the reluctant ones.
Like Skype for telecoms, Google for search engines, Tesla in automobile, the Red story proves once again that in saturated markets, there's a huge room for quality and customer experience.

Ok, I'm out of this fake thread.
 
A lot of people are lazy... they don't want to accept Red till they absolutely have to.

Till then they will continue telling me that Red One doesn't work and because of that they must shoot on HPX-3000's, etc... someone actually told me not a week ago, as an insult to my understanding and with with total arrogance, that R1 didn't work yet. I wanted to smack him, :angry2: lol...

Instead I basically told him that there's those who know how to use their smartphones and there are people that only have house phones. Well... that's not what I said at all... but you get the idea.
 
The RED SMART PHONE. thats the big announcement!! wow I just realised Jim and comapny are going to put the mysterium in a phone.!!!

or maybe not. but I would buy one if it has tiny interchangable lenses.
 
I don't know if can sleep knowing that news about Scarlet will be announced on the 13th. Can anyone recommend any good sleep meds?
 
The Hunter S. Thompson special -- 50/50 mic of Nyquil & Scotch. It's nasty and green, but you better be in your jammies sitting on the side of the bed because you won't make it far.
 
After the success of the RED ONE, I suspect most of the former skeptics are going to keep mum after the announcement of the specs for the upcoming Scarlet and Epic no matter how over-the-top they are.

Which may or may not be a good thing for RED -- afterall, sometimes it's better to generate a lot of discussion, even negative or skeptical, rather than have people take a silent wait-and-see cautious attitude.

I've been in some initial discussion with someone about a big 3D project, so I'm hoping that RED will release something suitable for 3D configurations, or even a true twin-lens 3D camera rather than cobbling two cameras together.
 
David Mullen ASC said:
...I've been in some initial discussion with someone about a big 3D project, so I'm hoping that RED will release something suitable for 3D configurations, or even a true twin-lens 3D camera rather than cobbling two cameras together.
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David,

Interesting. But wouldn't you always basically need to have two separate parts so that each lens axis can independently rotate and slide?

With the smaller form factor of EPIC and SCARLET, it seems they are pretty close already. Perhaps the Wi-Fi ability could be used to automate the management of file names and meta data. Also, there could be an option to make one of the Cameras a Master and the other the slave...

I'd be interested in what you have in mind for a camera system that isn't cobbled together... perhaps making the cameras smaller still and having each tethered to a single drive for capture?
 
It just seems time for a specific 3D camera to be built rather than hire companies to help you assemble a system from F950's or SI-2K's or whatever. Something designed from the ground-up for 3D work. Yes, it would have to offer an adjustable interocular distance, etc.
 
David, have you shot and 3D features or plan on shooting any?
If so can you tell us more?
 
I thought I remember RedOne was going to be made for Stereoscopic when it was still on the drawing boards?
 
David Mullen ASC said:
It just seems time for a specific 3D camera to be built rather than hire companies to help you assemble a system from F950's or SI-2K's or whatever. Something designed from the ground-up for 3D work. Yes, it would have to offer an adjustable interocular distance, etc.
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The interest in stereoscopic 3D is very strong from the studios, everyone knows about Avatar and there are other stereoscopic features in production.
 
Ayoji said:
I thought I remember RedOne was going to be made for Stereoscopic when it was still on the drawing boards?
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I wonder if something like this would work and/or if it already exists?

Stereolens.jpg


I just came up with the idea, and made the concept drawing without pondering it too much, so it might be stupidly wrong somehow... but at first glance it seems it could work.

Anyway, this stereo lens concept has a 2:1 anamorphic lens combined with two adjustable periscopes. If i'm correct, the result should be two anamorphically squeezed images, like this (not a real stereo image, just a poor photoshop simulation):

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I guess that RED ONE with this kind of contraption would have enough resolution for decent 2K stereo images (both images would be about 2000*2000 pixels), and even Scarlet's supposed 3K would be close enough for many occasions at around 1,5K original resolution per image.

Whaddya think, is this a silly idea?
 
Halsu said:
I wonder if something like this would work and/or if it already exists?
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Exists separately of anamorphic lens. You can find such things to be screwed on SLR lenses on ebay, either made in asia or, also under the GDR brand "Carl Zeiss Jena" (which implies that they have been around for many years).

Does it work? I have a doubt about the change of perspective, it is like using two opposed shift lenses.
 
Halsu,

I have been shooting with a Wheatstone type attachment similar to your nice drawing (sans anamorphosis) with remarkably good results.

As you point out, (shooting 4K/2:1) the contrivance yields a pair of quite clean 2Kx2K images. I've mounted an old Paramount 3D projection mirror box off the top rails and it seems to work fine. The resulting image is a bit hyper-stereo but that works well for our needs. The box we are using has built in micrometer style adjustments for toe-in which is very useful.

While the 2K is likely not quite up to spec for theatrical, it works beautifully for our purposes and is a whole lot less expensive than a second RED set-up.

I suspect I will be getting a couple of Scarlets when the time comes, but for the moment this set-up is a Godsent.

I'm away from the laboratory at the moment but will post some pictures when I get back.

David
 
Halsu said:
I wonder if something like this would work and/or if it already exists?
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The Red wouldn't be right for this one. The minimum interocular distance in this concept depends on the lens size and therefore chip size. Also, DoF is an issue with 3d, because you have to be careful to focus on the areas where viewers most likely concentrate. A small chip/small lens camera would be better for both those reasons.
 
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