Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

IBC - Motion Mount ready to ship...

Another Rabbit out of the hat...!


amazing
 
Wow, lower price and Canon available too, guys you're crazy. This is spectacular. Thanks for doing this.
Not sure yet, but i think i'll order one even before i upgrade to Dragon. ;)

Great times...
 
Does the Canon Motion Mount have the same focus and iris control features as the regular DSMC Canon Mount? Is there a projected release date for a Nikon Motion Mount and would it also have the same focus and iris control features?
 
The Motion Mount Guide states there is IR Cut and Polarizer incorporated. Thats fantastic.

Hows that work? What should I expect from the Polarizer?

Also, is there a way to turn it off?
 
Paul Kalbach said:
Does the Canon Motion Mount have the same focus and iris control features as the regular DSMC Canon Mount? Is there a projected release date for a Nikon Motion Mount and would it also have the same focus and iris control features?
Click to expand...

Yep. All of the other iris and focus functions are the same between the EF Mount and EF Motion Mount. Can't answer your Nikon question though.


Kyle Dones said:
The Motion Mount Guide states there is IR Cut and Polarizer incorporated. Thats fantastic.

Hows that work? What should I expect from the Polarizer?

Also, is there a way to turn it off?
Click to expand...

Basically what you'll be seeing with linear polarizer in vertical orientation is the potential universal effect of reducing glare, unwanted reflections, and enriching colors/increasing saturation in some circumstances. The trick bit here is the angle of orientation vertical, horizontal and 45 degrees can potential produce different results. A bit of experimentation is going to be needed here and I'll do that the day I receive mine.

Although, it being positioned vertically is smart as it will let a good amount of "normal" things through.

The IR Cut you certainly can't turn off. However, I do wonder if there's ways to effect the orientation digitally via the Motion Mount tech to create sort of circular polarizer. I would need to know more about the underlying design, but that might be possible perhaps.

Also a good thing to test out is Quarter Wave filters to see how to fully transform it to a circularly polarized system that you can control.
 
ordered
 
In the manual it says the Optimo DP series could damage them.

I am assuming the nicer Optimos work just fine or the DP distinction would not be made.

Do we know if there are other lenses that might cause damage?

Specifically the Alura's?
 
Phil Holland said:
Basically what you'll be seeing with linear polarizer in vertical orientation is the potential universal effect of reducing glare, unwanted reflections, and enriching colors/increasing saturation in some circumstances. The trick bit here is the angle of orientation vertical, horizontal and 45 degrees can potential produce different results. A bit of experimentation is going to be needed here and I'll do that the day I receive mine.

Although, it being positioned vertically is smart as it will let a good amount of "normal" things through.

The IR Cut you certainly can't turn off. However, I do wonder if there's ways to effect the orientation digitally via the Motion Mount tech to create sort of circular polarizer. I would need to know more about the underlying design, but that might be possible perhaps.

Also a good thing to test out is Quarter Wave filters to see how to fully transform it to a circularly polarized system that you can control.
Click to expand...


I missed something. Is the polarizer rotateable? Is it Linear, Circurlar?

I am looking into the Quarter Wave filters btw. Thanks.

And PS im super excited about this. I just lost my mattebox and filters. Lets see how far I can stretch this mount.
 
Kyle Dones said:
I missed something. Is the polarizer rotateable? Is it Linear, Circurlar?

I am looking into the Quarter Wave filters btw. Thanks.

And PS im super excited about this. I just lost my mattebox and filters. Lets see how far I can stretch this mount.
Click to expand...


Nope. It's fixed vertically. I'll leave it at that for now. I'll know a heck of a lot more once I start testing this thing out.
 
Awesome. I'll be looking out for your results
 
Kyle Dones said:
Awesome. I'll be looking out for your results
Click to expand...

There's a lot, and I mean a lot to like about this device. It's sort of tremendous that we get something like this that doesn't add really any weight to the camera at all. And actually allows us to take some weight and size off our rigs even. Additionally from what I can read the power draw is fairly minimal. Which is nice.

Everybody at NAB 2013 was initially pretty stoked about the potential for a Global Shutter. However, shortly after that they saw the smooth motion with the spinning wheel and the strobe protection. I'm curious about how certain light sources at high speeds will react to this, but I have a good feeling about it.

There's currently no other package like this available and it really allows an extra level of control over the images being captured.

Add to that the benefit of having a very precise electronic ND with subtle adjustments. All good things really.

I have a general idea on how I'll use it the most, but I'm real curious to see and show this tech to others to see their take on this concept.
 
Quarter wave filter

Quarter wave filter

Jarred mentioned using a quarter wave filter to eliminate the polarizing effect.
Googling brings up only PS Technik, as far as I can see.
No pricing or sizing on their website, though.
Does anyone have any info or alternatives?
 
Mark Pugh said:
Jarred mentioned using a quarter wave filter to eliminate the polarizing effect.
Googling brings up only PS Technik, as far as I can see.
No pricing or sizing on their website, though.
Does anyone have any info or alternatives?
Click to expand...

Schneider's got them. Look up "Quarter Wave Retarder".
 
I rendered out some interesting tests last night. 3D nonsense. When I get my Motion Mount I'll certainly have more to say but.......

Here's an interesting thought about Soft Shutter. Do to the potential "smoothness" effect of moves, we must also remember it effects the entire image frame and everything moving within it.

Based on my initial little experiment I feel that a Soft Shutter effect could help increased perceived detail on anything moving in frame. It's a different sensation really.

This excites me because of the implication of say 24fps work and the occasional judder that comes with certain moves. Particularly from a storytelling standpoint I enjoy locking on eyes and keeping attention drawn to such things. This could effect that in a positive way. Not talking about the effect of a 360 shutter, but more of the smooth feeling that comes from that at thinner and more standard shutters like 180 degrees. You get the motion blur you want but with slightly enhanced perceived detail. Think "thicker lines transitioning between positions".

However, I got to thinking about productions shooting HFR at 48 and 60fps, which isn't my first choice, but a very real goal for many. This may indeed produce something even more "real" or perhaps hyper real to the look of that type of material.

Interesting stuff.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top