Sony 4k TV's now at Best Buy

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Basically without disruptive companies like RED, standards tend to get stuck in 20 year cycles(i.e. so without RED we would probably have seen 4k tv's/monitor lined up with laser glasses deployment sometime in early 2020).

I doubt it. This is the era of Moore's law. That's like saying we wouldn't have 32GB MP3 players today if it wasn't for the creative zen. If there is a stat and it's bound by moore's law... it will be upgraded on a very regular basis. Nokia has an 8k video camera in a cell phone. That's redonculous. And it wasn't because of RED. Also before RED released a "4k" camera... we had 4k cameras, they just weren't bayer pattern. The Viper had almost 4k worth of photosites. The 5D MK2 wasn't even trying to be a video camera and it succeeded incredibly well.

 

[Jay Birch]

sony are not releasing a 4k tv because of anything RED have done, they are releasing it because they think the time is right for the public to buy such a thing.

that is not to say that RED haven't been right about aquiring 4k footage being a good thing.... they just have very little to do with the push of 4k in the home or theatre.... that is mainly on Sony.

 

[L. Langer]

Basically without disruptive companies like RED, standards tend to get stuck in 20 year cycles(i.e. so without RED we would probably have seen 4k tv's/monitor lined up with laser glasses deployment sometime in early 2020).

Sony was working on 4K TVs alongside their 4K projectors - both used proprietary LCOS - at the same time RED was just a whisper in the wind and they also have had a 4K laser TV prototype for some time, though that has been replaced by OLED in their product roadmap. Other companies also had 4K TVs in development and showcased them at CES when RED was in it's infancy.

 

[PatrickFaith]

Well you guys could be right, but as a "reference" ... my first job was doing spherical bessel functions eigen value's (using dipoles) for 3D visualization systems 30 years ago for a professor (i.e. i was just being told what to do so i don't think this was a novel thing). I still haven't seen good wavelet stuff come out for 3D and I was also recently reading a paper on this going back to 1918. Almost all of this "4k" stuff you can look back and say things, but RED was actually creating real products & pushing the market this entire time. I visited fairchild when most of this quantum sensor stuff was invented, was shown first wafer system in the 70's, was in the clean rooms with the space telescope ... having been able to talk in extended conversations with all these leaders in detail, so i think i have the background to say what i said ... but it's really all up to the winners to write the history books.

 

[Robert Ruffo New]

netflix will probably be the first leader in SuperHD content...until direct,Dish, and the others struggle to catchup

If only Netflix looked anything like 1080p in its "HD" that would be a first step.

 

[Bill Sepaniak]

There was a big photo show today in LA. (Saw Dan Kanes there and his Paralinx stuff ... way cool.) Anyhow, Sony was there showing both their $25,000.00 panel and the new $5,000.00. Looked very good. Got to talk for a few minutes with the Sony rep. and I asked him if Sony actually made the panels. The answer (FWIW): "Nope ... they come from China."

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[Petr Dvorak]

Yeah more vivid colors and enhanced sharpness, thats what we all want.
Just the picture you never seen before. ... I will need all picture enhacers killswitch verry soon.
:badputer:

 

[Petr Dvorak]

There was a big photo show today in LA. (Saw Dan Kanes there and his Paralinx stuff ... way cool.) Anyhow, Sony was there showing both their $25,000.00 panel and the new $5,000.00. Looked very good. Got to talk for a few minutes with the Sony rep. and I asked him if Sony actually made the panels. The answer (FWIW): "Nope ... they come from China."

Sony is not making their TV panels for a long time. They lost this battle. 99.9% of all panels are made in China, Tchaj-wan and Korea.

 

[Petr Dvorak]

Quad HD makes a lot of sense from a manufacturing and scaling standpoint, but that has nothing to do with the question of "How the hell is 3.75k ok to sell as '4k'?"

Welcome to the "4K ready" world.

By some international broadcasters association, 3840×2160 is considered like 4K resolution together with real 4K.
But as everybody know anything what is not just in 1:1 pixel perfect native resolutin is just nasty mess on all LCD panels.
I think there is also strong technologilcal and production costs reason for this.

 

[Petr Dvorak]

Sony was working on 4K TVs alongside their 4K projectors - both used proprietary LCOS - at the same time RED was just a whisper in the wind and they also have had a 4K laser TV prototype for some time, though that has been replaced by OLED in their product roadmap. Other companies also had 4K TVs in development and showcased them at CES when RED was in it's infancy.

Smart people in big companies are working on a freaky amazing things all the time, but what count is if bosses will ever let it out and have some breakthru with it. Remember how Nikon was 1st with their video DSLR? There can be big trigger effect from disruptive companies. Big companies and their shareholders are scared to death from big changes and technological revolutions, like US automakers with their GM EV1 or automotive industry crisis...
Mostly big thing are just leftovers like nowadays mouse driven computer GUI with icons and scalable windows "borrowed" from Xerox.