Scarlet and Epic BUILD 4 BETA

[Micah Brown]

Firmware that actually makes a product better? What a thought!

 

[TheBied]

I have tried all four that i have , 64, 128 and 256 GB in capacity,
so this is a bug?

Confirmed bug. We'll track down a fix for the next beta release.

 

[Dorian Weber]

Confirmed that the refresh rate not saving is a bug. It will be fixed in the next beta release.

So there will be no other way for me to start the camera as remove/plug the monitor cable every time till the next release comes out?

 

[TheBied]

So there will be no other way for me to start the camera as remove/plug the monitor cable every time till the next release comes out?

Please try this as a potential workaround:

1) power up the camera
2) under settings -> display -> monitor control set the the Brain LCD frequency to 30 Hz (if there are other default monitor settings you would like, also set those)
3) close the monitor control dialog
4) go to Presets -> Camera Presets -> Create...
5) create a Preset containing 'Monitor Settings' (located under the DISPLAY tab)
6) go to Preset -> Auto Presets -> On Enter Preview and select the preset you just created
7) exit the Preset dialog

Reboot the camera and see if the LCD issue is alleviated.

This will re-apply all monitor settings each time you start previewing live video data.

 

[Dorian Weber]

Please try this as a potential workaround:

1) power up the camera
2) under settings -> display -> monitor control set the the Brain LCD frequency to 30 Hz (if there are other default monitor settings you would like, also set those)
3) close the monitor control dialog
4) go to Presets -> Camera Presets -> Create...
5) create a Preset containing 'Monitor Settings' (located under the DISPLAY tab)
6) go to Preset -> Auto Presets -> On Enter Preview and select the preset you just created
7) exit the Preset dialog

Reboot the camera and see if the LCD issue is alleviated.

This will re-apply all monitor settings each time you start previewing live video data.

It worked!! Great, Thank you! At least can start up with live view.
It seem to me, this is a rather isolated case? I don't think, many mentioned that problem.

I noticed something else (the first time) : when I switch from 1:1 to normal view, the video goes very dark almost fades to black, and then pops back to normal. Is this related to the 30 Hz?

 

[TheBied]

It worked!! Great, Thank you! At least can start up with live view.
It seem to me, this is a rather isolated case? I don't think, many mentioned that problem.

I noticed something else (the first time) : when I switch from 1:1 to normal view, the video goes very dark almost fades to black, and then pops back to normal. Is this related to the 30 Hz?

Great!

We've had a few isolated reports of this. The only known workaround so far is setting the LCD frequency to 30 Hz. The underlying cause is still under investigation.

The dimming of the LCD when going into magnify is something we're looking into as well. I've repeated it here, but don't have any more info on it yet.

 

[Dorian Weber]

Great!

We've had a few isolated reports of this. The only known workaround so far is setting the LCD frequency to 30 Hz. The underlying cause is still under investigation.

The dimming of the LCD when going into magnify is something we're looking into as well. I've repeated it here, but don't have any more info on it yet.

As I mentioned before, I had the same happen in an earlier ver. of Firmware (3.xxx) but it took a couple of updates to stop the freeze completely). Actually, was surprised to see it happen again.
Anyway, thanks for the workaround!
I think, the new ver is so great, that we all are willing to accept a few bugs, because we know, they only will be temporary.

And herewith I want to thank Jim and the Red Team for making such a great update available to us.

Greetings from Tokyo.

Dorian

 

[M.D. Biemann]

That is an excellent question...teh one about the blackshading library... especially for the documentary people this would be a great thing to know and HAVE

 

[M.D. Biemann]

You know guys, I think it's time for RED to produce a wee tutorial on black shading and what you can do with it to get the best from your camera. I know black shading is dependent on exposure, and ambient temperature; should I be thinking about building a little library of different exposure/temperature calibration maps to use as required? Just what's the latitude? How far can you move from an arbitrary standard (say, 24FPS / 180 shutter / 20C) before you should consider applying a different calibration?

Thanks!

Mike

Thank you MIKE... THIS is an EXCELLENT suggestion and question ... would be great for the documentary people who work indoors and outdoors within a short period of time...

 

[Chris McKechnie]

Anyone else having issues with 120fps in 5k WS? I can now only shoot 96fps.

 

[Phil Holland]

Anyone else having issues with 120fps in 5k WS? I can now only shoot 96fps.

Do you have look around enabled?

 

[Antony M]

Great update !

But a lot of screen issues !

I find that has happened several times, with different versions of firmware. Usually a reboot fixes it.

 

[Jon MIchael Puntervold]

The only way to format a mag using the REDmote is to have the REDmote in remote mode and drive the camera through its menu system.

Adjusting the fan speeds can very easily be done on the RedMote, maybe it would be a good idea to use a similar U.I. for media management on the RedMote?

 

[Martijn de Vre]

Yes a reboot helps, but this didn't happened with firmware v3.3.14 [FONT=FontSiteSans, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]on my camera. [/FONT]

 

[francisco santos]

i prayed for 96fps ramp on the scarlet but looks like its only avail on the epic ....me sad!

 

[Patrick Grossien]

Yes a reboot helps, but this didn't happened with firmware v3.3.14 [FONT=FontSiteSans, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]on my camera. [/FONT]

since this is a BETA firmware, do not expect it to work without any bugs. they mostly work amazingly perfect so maybe we became a little spoiled, but it's still BETA and this is a major update, so a lot has changed which makes it prone to new bugs.
So even standard things that work stable in the release firmwares before could be affected.

If you want to work in a safe environment - use the release firmwares only!

 

[Adam Watson]

So here are the more significant updates summed up in my own words, would you guys say this all seems accurate? The summing/averaging thing was the most difficult feature to wrap my head around.

- Pre-record
With this mode you can pre-record 10, 20 or 30 seconds, you must activate this mode before each clip you wish to use it for.

- Record Ramp
Now you can ramp in to slow motion like you could with the Red One, the only catch is that you can only do it once per clip, no ramping up and then back down again. There is a dedicated button you will need to program that triggers the ramp.

- Vertical Mirror Flip
Now you can orient your Red LCD upside down for added versatility, except this function isn’t useful yet because you can only flip the image upside down but you can’t mirror it left to right. What that means is that if you turn the feature on you can turn the monitor upside down but everything will be backwards. Red is working on it but we’ll have to wait a while longer for this function to be useful.

- +1 support
If you haven’t heard, Red is developing and will soon be releasing a new module for the epic that adds one extra Red LCD/EVF port, allowing use of a RED LCD and EVF at the same time. This update readies the camera for this addition.

- Frame Summing, Frame Averaging, Timelapse
As you could with the Red One, you can now do timelapse in camera. And to support that mode there are a couple new modes: Frame Summing and Frame Averaging. Summing/averaging is also timelapse, the difference is that if you are in timelapse mode but not using summing or averaging, you are limited to the usual exposure parameters available with an exposure time not exceeding 1 second in length. If you activate summing or averaging then you can do exposures for as long as 16 seconds, this is ideal for nighttime/very low light timelapses. In each of the summing/averaging modes you can set the number of samples it will take to combine for each frame: 2, 4, 8, or 16. From what I can tell, although Red hasn’t divulged the particulars to confirm this, the difference between summing and averaging is what it does with these samples; Summing adds them together and averaging uses more complicated algorithms to average all the samples to create its frame with the mission to reduce noise inherent in long exposures, similar to the difference between simple blend and magic motion in HDRx. What Red HAS said is that the Averaging feature is experimental and is expected to develop over time.

To summarize these features: Timelapse allows interval frame capture but alone only allows exposure times up to 1 second. Summing and averaging allows for long exposure. These two features combined allow for long exposures at programmable intervals.

 

[Johnny Friday]

RED---more info on Summing and Averaging----maybe one of your in-house videos on the new timelapse functions.

 

[Phil Holland]

So here are the more significant updates summed up in my own words, would you guys say this all seems accurate?

Mostly, but honestly the most important and useful update in 4.0 for me is the 1:1 Movable Pixel Zoom. This is a feature I can say I'll use nearly everyday. The fact that I can now lock critical focus anywhere within the frame is massive. I've pined for it shooting feature VFX elements, commercials, and even in certain narrative situations.

To quote myself from February:

I would kill a stuffed animal (like the ones from a claw machine) for that feature.

I am a man of my word.

 

[Elsie N]

It could be my imagination but I think I got a new Redmote as well as a new camera with this build.