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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RED MX and Anamorphic film

WOW!

4k DI ana. vs RED MX 2.40 sphere.... serious mano e mano.
MX was throwing resolution away too!

Bring on the RED anamorphics!

Great report.
 
I don't really know how to use this forum but here's what I can tell you, the RED crew have treated me like a king, I've have never before the Green Hornet even had my hands on a digital imaging camera and now I feel like an expert, I can talk RECODE with Jim, Deanen and Micheal Cioni and I sound like know what I am talking about! I am not a technical cinematographer, I apprenticed with Vittorio Storaro and he told me to trust my eye and my heart not my meter, and that's what I have done, and with a lot of l luck it has served me well in my career. My experience with the RED camera has been the same as with any other camera, understand how it sees the world, and then use that it tell your story. On the Green Hornet Kodak 5219 made the "Green Hornet's" green jacket look blue, and 5229 made the jacket look green, so I chose 5229 because it saw the world closer to what it really was, the RED MX is the same, understand how it sees the world and do your magic as a cinematographer to help it tell your story. I have been part of a very select group of DP's that have actually shot with the EPIC and I can tell that the 3lb 5K camera is a game changer, end of story, game over, pick your cliche'. I am still very committed to film, it 's still the best data recorder if budget isn't an object. I don't think we've figured out digital archiving, and if you shoot EPIC you will have a lot of data. I will tell you this I have shot more tests on the EPIC than probably any other DP other than my mate Andrew Lesnie who is doing the "Hobbit", we skype daily about how this camera blows our mutual minds, when you see these image projected at 4K it's like looking a vistavision. For those of you lucky enough to get to use this tiny masterpiece all I can say is "data storage" we all asked for less compression and Jim has brought it on us. My thanks to the RED ARMY(Jim, Jarred, Deanen, Ted, Lia, Nate) and LightIron for educating me on de-bayering and not making me afraid of the future of cinematography, and most of all thank you Jim, it's Chanuka, so all I can say is that you are a mensch. I bet you can't wait for my next post! If for some reason I wanted to post on the EPIC site how would I do that?

John
 
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Welcome to the Reduser forum Mr. Schwartzman. Its wonderful having a cinematographer of your caliber commenting on this forum. I absolutely loved your work on Seabiscuit, what a stunningly good looking film (one of my dad's favorites as well).

Please keep us posted on your experiences with the Epic. I have a feeling it is going to revolutionize both 2D and 3D cinematography.
 
Andrew Rieger said:
Welcome to the Reduser forum Mr. Schwartzman. Its wonderful having a cinematographer of your caliber commenting on this forum. I absolutely loved your work on Seabiscuit, what a stunningly good looking film (one of my dad's favorites as well).

Please keep us posted on your experiences with the Epic. I have a feeling it is going to revolutionize both 2D and 3D cinematography.
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Thank You, like all cinematographers we do it for ourselves and hope other people like it. I am a digital novice but I am fortunate to be surrounded by the likes of Steve Freebairn, Micheal Cioni and Brook Willard, who have taken me under there wing to reducate me.
 
Brook Willard said:
Welcome aboard, John!

You can follow this link to get to the Epic section if you wanted to make a post.
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Thanks for taking me under your wing, I think we are on the cutting edge of doing something amazing together and I think you've got a great eye and even a better bedside manner, the next 6 months are going to be fun!
 
John Schwartzman ASC said:
I don't really know how to use this forum but here's what I can tell you, the RED crew have treated me like a king, I've have never before the Green Hornet even had my hands on a digital imaging camera and now I feel like an expert, I can talk RECODE with Jim, Deanen and Micheal Cioni and I sound like know what I am talking about! I am not a technical cinematographer, I apprenticed with Vittorio Storaro and he told me to trust my eye and my heart not my meter, and that's what I have done, and with a lot of l luck it has served me well in my career. My experience with the RED camera has been the same as with any other camera, understand how it sees the world, and then use that it tell your story. On the Green Hornet Kodak 5219 made the "Green Hornet's" green jacket look blue, and 5229 made the jacket look green, so I chose 5229 because it saw the world closer to what it really was, the RED MX is the same, understand how it sees the world and do your magic as a cinematographer to help it tell your story. I have been part of a very select group of DP's that have actually shot with the EPIC and I can tell that the 3lb 5K camera is a game changer, end of story, game over, pick your cliche'. I am still very committed to film, it 's still the best data recorder if budget isn't an object. I don't think we've figured out digital archiving, and if you shoot EPIC you will have a lot of data. I will tell you this I have shot more tests on the EPIC than probably any other DP other than my mate Andrew Lesnie who is doing the "Hobbit", we skype daily about how this camera blows our mutual minds, when you see these image projected at 4K it's like looking a vistavision. For those of you lucky enough to get to use this tiny masterpiece all I can say is "data storage" we all asked for less compression and Jim has brought it on us. My thanks to the RED ARMY(Jim, Jarred, Deanen, Ted, Lia, Nate) and LightIron for educating me on de-bayering and not making me afraid of the future of cinematography, and most of all thank you Jim, it's Chanuka, so all I can say is that you are a mensch. I bet you can't wait for my next post! If for some reason I wanted to post on the EPIC site how would I do that?

John
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Hey John,

Fantastic post. You got it all figured out man, this is the site to post on (Edit, Brook sorted you out!) I really appreciate hearing what you have to share about your experience as a DP...its easy here to get caught up in the technical jargon and with good reason, these are exciting times to be a filmmaker but its refreshing to remind ourselves what Vittorio Storaro did for you...so thank you. It might be hard to navigate this forum at times due to the overall clatter and excitement for EPIC but its threads like yours that keep folks (like myself) coming back.

Story is why I am here, and to learn about the tools of tomorrow to help me pave that path. I always say choose your own instruments...I chose RED and never looked back but digital archiving still looms in my nightmares, maybe RED will one day solve this too? :)

Best of luck John and to your mate Andrew Lesnie on the Hobbit as well!
 
John Schwartzman ASC said:
I don't really know how to use this forum but here's what I can tell you, the RED crew have treated me like a king, I've have never before the Green Hornet even had my hands on a digital imaging camera and now I feel like an expert, I can talk RECODE with Jim, Deanen and Micheal Cioni and I sound like know what I am talking about! I am not a technical cinematographer, I apprenticed with Vittorio Storaro and he told me to trust my eye and my heart not my meter, and that's what I have done, and with a lot of l luck it has served me well in my career. My experience with the RED camera has been the same as with any other camera, understand how it sees the world, and then use that it tell your story. On the Green Hornet Kodak 5219 made the "Green Hornet's" green jacket look blue, and 5229 made the jacket look green, so I chose 5229 because it saw the world closer to what it really was, the RED MX is the same, understand how it sees the world and do your magic as a cinematographer to help it tell your story. I have been part of a very select group of DP's that have actually shot with the EPIC and I can tell that the 3lb 5K camera is a game changer, end of story, game over, pick your cliche'. I am still very committed to film, it 's still the best data recorder if budget isn't an object. I don't think we've figured out digital archiving, and if you shoot EPIC you will have a lot of data. I will tell you this I have shot more tests on the EPIC than probably any other DP other than my mate Andrew Lesnie who is doing the "Hobbit", we skype daily about how this camera blows our mutual minds, when you see these image projected at 4K it's like looking a vistavision. For those of you lucky enough to get to use this tiny masterpiece all I can say is "data storage" we all asked for less compression and Jim has brought it on us. My thanks to the RED ARMY(Jim, Jarred, Deanen, Ted, Lia, Nate) and LightIron for educating me on de-bayering and not making me afraid of the future of cinematography, and most of all thank you Jim, it's Chanuka, so all I can say is that you are a mensch. I bet you can't wait for my next post! If for some reason I wanted to post on the EPIC site how would I do that?

John
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For someone who said he "doesnt really know how to use this forum", I can safely say this is the single most exciting and humbling post I have read on reduser since I joined. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. Im a big fan of your film work.

What is so ironic and incredible is you are boasting about a camera many of us have waited years for (Epic) and its sensor (M-X) is your first time shooting digital! Had you only known what RED has endured from build 1 to 20 (the latter when the Red One truly came into its own) and then this year when we were blessed with the M- X sensor and Graeme's increasingly amazing color science.

Thank you again for joining and sharing real world experience.. as for the EPIC forum, (although Scarlet has its own) this is it. Reduser. thanks and Happy Hanukkah!
 
Brook Willard said:
Thanks, John! I couldn't be more excited!
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Does that mean the next film John is shooting, will be shot on EPIC. Could that film be the next Spiderman (as mentioned on IMDB)? ;-)

And - welcome to the forums, John. Great to have so many talented people willing to share their thoughts - all in one place. Let's all protect that by being respectful and on-topic.
 
John Schwartzman ASC said:
I have been part of a very select group of DP's that have actually shot with the EPIC and I can tell that the 3lb 5K camera is a game changer, end of story, game over, pick your cliche'.
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Mr. Schwartzman, thanks for being here, I've been waiting for a post like this for a very long time. Glad to know Red (the company) is putting the new camera in the hand of people like you for testing.

A few questions:
1) I know it's not your job, but by speaking with your camera assistants, do you (or they) have any comment about the interface/menu of the camera?
2) I've seen lots of pictures with the Epic in its "standard" configuration, i.e. similar to a big DSLR, but do you or your operator use a viewfinder with the Epic or do you rely on the LCD monitors?
3) when is the AC article coming out? Is it going to be about Epic or more generally about different digital cameras available at the moment?

Thank you!

F.
 
Thanks for joining our bunch Mr. Schwartzman. Now I have even more reason to check out the forum every single day.
We are all ears about your Epic experiences.

Thanks a lot.

Tim
 
John Schwartzman ASC said:
I have been part of a very select group of DP's that have actually shot with the EPIC and I can tell that the 3lb 5K camera is a game changer, end of story, game over, pick your cliche'.
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John Schwartzman ASC said:
I will tell you this I have shot more tests on the EPIC than probably any other DP other than my mate Andrew Lesnie who is doing the "Hobbit", we skype daily about how this camera blows our mutual minds, when you see these image projected at 4K it's like looking a vistavision.
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One more time ....

John Schwartzman ASC said:
when you see these image projected at 4K it's like looking a vistavision.
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Fantastic to have you here John. Welcome to the future of digital cinema - you are on the FRONT LINE.
 
I saw a ton of excitement over the RED One being released, the constant influx of DP's talking about it. But with almost the same amount of nay-sayers.

This time around, with RED already established as a camera company that will deliver a product that will blow minds. Each time someone comes on here, just like you John, a professional DP, that is blown away by the image, I know something big is coming.

Thanks for posting.
 
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