Wow that thread got whacked...

[Elsie N]

Elsie,

Yah the amount of nitrites and other preservatives in some of that stuff is awful.

Your body can really get screwed up when it accepts in something it "thinks" is a substance only
to have it be a mimic-ally close but off by one or two molecules. Over long periods of time this stuff
can accumulate. The body doesn't know what to do with certain parts of the chain cause it was never
a natural created product in the first place, it was created in labotories for speed, efficeincy and cost.
Only sometimes is the impact of health really taken into account.

Regardless I believe now a lot of science will come out in the next ten years on some these manufactured
food additive products being not exactly the healthiest for us and having un-intended consequences from
multi decades long consumption and bio-accumulation.

And that's the problem that maybe Jim, and I know my dad have hit. You can be somewhat fine for 30 years eating
and drinking this crap, and then all the sudden shit hits the fan, and you have negative cascading health effects.

I agree Michael. If it won't rot, ruin or spoil... don't eat it. That's my motto anyway.

 

[Elsie N]

Agreed, Elsie. I'm in the chicken and grains category: I just turned sixty and am fighting fit. I walk, hike, bike regularly. I can still party like a demon though.

... And don't get me started about the valium that was prescribed to my mother when I was a kid. That was some party. And no, there was no correlation between having me as a kid and being prescribed valium. Hmm, I don't think there was ( :

Bill just to be safe, don't get a second opinion on that last part. '-)

 

[Dave Blackham]

Very low Sodium !!!!!! Well thats just great. What the hell is all that other stuff ! and Aspartamine !

I used work in a paint shop and we etched Alumuminium with Phosphoric Acid.........

 

[Sunny Jhooty]

On another note, I have quite a few hair raising stories about family and friends who suffered for years before finding out that the main culprit was the prescribed medication they were on.

for 5 years i suffered from severe bone and joint pain. all the doctors did was prescribe pain killers and tnf blockers but they only helped slightly. at one point for a year i was taking 6 pain killers a day to get by. i eventually got fed up with taking meds and changed my diet. i started eating raw vegetables and cut out a lot of processed food. now I'm almost pain free and haven't touched pain killers in almost 4 months. the amount of processed food we consume in north america is mind boggling.

 

[David Rasberry]

If Aspartame is so harmless why is it banned prety much everywhere else but the USA? Only here do the chemical companies get by with selling industrial waste by products as food and medicine. We get this kind of crap dumped on us in the USA because the chemical and drug companies excercise too much influence over the regulatory process.

A friend of mine, nicknamed Rummy for his fondness for rum and coke, used to consume about 2 quarts of diet coke a day along with a pint of rum until he developed liver problems. He quit the alcohol, but it turned out it was the diet coke causing the liver issues, went away when he switched to regular coke.
I can't drink anything with Aspartame, it gives me headaches.

Watched an entertaining and very eye opening documentary last night called What If Cannabis Cured Cancer? Won't go into that one here, but if it is available to you on PPV watch it. Well worth it.

http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi1585579545/

 

[Michael McLaughlin]

Sunny,

auto immune / inflammatory response to a lot of things is amazing. For a lot of this stuff the original inflammation/pain response is hard to pinpoint until deep and costly analysis is done.

A family member (won't dare say names or even relation cause that could cause major problems) who works as a chemical engineer/scientist is looking into, with a current drug, the effects it
has on reducing such responses. Huge money making potential with such things react positive to this drug already being used for something else.

Basically creating human chemical/drug to counteract the human created chemicals that a person has been absorbing for the last 30 40 years.


Oh and don't even get me started on Fructose.

Notice lately, because of knew studies out, and coming out (big one), that fructose may not be that good for yah... the industry has been
pumping out these new commercials to get ahead of the ball of opinion. I had been seeing many fructose positive commercials in heavy
rotation on my parents TV (they live in the midwest).

I was speechless, and the commercials were not written in a way that really makes me want to support fructose.

The first time I saw it I was with my mom... we both turned to each other and said "what the hell?".
but haven't seen it lately.

 

[Joost Kelderman]

honey does not rot or spoil either (-;

I agree Michael. If it won't rot, ruin or spoil... don't eat it. That's my motto anyway.

 

[ericyoung]

My personal theory based on my own health problems is that the human body is remarkably good at maintaining chemical equilibriums, but at some point if abused constantly or increasingly it can no longer maintain a particular equilibrium, and tips over into another less healthy state which it then endeavours to maintain. Continued abuse may in turn go over another threshold into even worse states. Or we can choose a better lifestyle and diet and not degrade our health further. However, regaining the higher, healthier states may be incredibly difficult, or impossible, as our modern environments are so full of harmful substances.

 

[Michael McLaughlin]

Again I think Jim is really ahead of his time on many things, and I love how he post his mind
on things.

Of course I am sure there are a few people with in his inner circle who just freak when Jim post
something like this.


But again this just goes to testament the fact that Jim can be flexible, question, change, and make claritive
statements of changing course for better waters. Which again probably freaks people out a little around him.


But man I love him for it, seriously.

 

[Oscar G]

Anyone have the text/posts from the original thread they can share via PM? Was full of solid info and would love to revisit it.

 

[Martin Weiss]

Many reasons for quitting coke; one of them is that it ruins your teeth.

Since the original thread got shut down, I'll close this one.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

In the specific to Jim's problem... Coke Zero doesn't use aspertame so you can get coke free of Aspertame if you still want to drink Coke:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_Zero

Hehe, you're both right. Coke formulation varies at times and by where it's bottled/canned.

And as evil as aspartame is, the phenylketones (phenylalanine in the label above) are even worse. Coke Zero tastes like shit anyway... Give me straight-up real Coke or forget it. Not that it's good for you either, but I don't drink it very often. I'm a fresh-brewed iced tea guy, usually green tea, unsweetened. I'm addicted, sure, and there is probably something in that which will kill me too... I just haven't found out about it yet. haha


EDIT> Curse my moderator abilities! Martin shut this thread while I was responding and it still let me post anyway... Hehe, I'll abuse my power and let it stand... lol. Martin's right though, this thread probably needs to end. It's now got me thinking about aspartame in all sorts of things, I think for me, it's pretty much out of the picture except it's in my toothpaste.

 

[Martin Weiss]

Let's see who gets the last word :sneaky2:

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

word.

 

[Martin Weiss]

Wuhahaha