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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Which ones would you like to have? Zeiss Compact Prime CP.2 or Red Pro Primes?

Both the Red Pro Primes and Zeiss CP.2s are an excellent value. Sure, I always prefer Master Primes, Ultra, or Optimos if the job has a sufficient budget. From an economic and rental rate perspective, I don't see how anyone could go wrong with either set. I probably use and prefer the CP.2s more than the Red Pro Primes because of their optical quality, compact design, and excellent markings. The only lens that really bothered me was the CP.2 18mm, but now that the 15mm will be coming out in a couple of months I think the CP.2s make a solid and very versatile set of glass. Especially considering there is now a 135mm and the two new 70-200 and 28-80 zooms. The biggest drawback regarding the CP.2s is the fact that the two widest lenses, the 15 and 21 are both T2.9 while the remaining set is T2.1. Contrast tends to be lowered when hit with a lot of intense backlight, but I do like the CP.2 flare quality. In my experience, the RPP tends to have an awkward pink element flare. The CP.2 cover full frame and have swappable lens mounts which is a unique bonus. I don't think one set completely blows the other out of the water. I think a lot of it depends on ones shooting style and aesthetic preferences. Love them both.

Joshua


Red Pro Primes 18-100

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Zeiss CP.2 Primes 21-85

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Go and try the i/Panchros. They are in a completly other category. And are still in a low budget for what they give you. The only drawback is T2.8 but I never find it to be an issue.
 
alejo taube said:
Go and try the i/Panchros. They are in a completly other category. And are still in a low budget for what they give you. The only drawback is T2.8 but I never find it to be an issue.
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They are also $20,000 more than a set of RPP's and are t2.8. Were talking more budget lenses here. Plus $48,000 (with tax) for a set of primes at t2.8 is ridiculous regardless of the brand. The Panchro's are great looking lenses, but not a great value.
 
Matt Ryan said:
There are also $20,000 more than a set of RPP's and are t2.8. Were talking more budget lenses here. Plus $48,000 (with tax) for a set of primes at t2.8 is ridiculous regardless of the brand. The Panchro's are great looking lenses, but not a great value.
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I second that, sorry but even if I had the money I wouldn't buy Panchros. Lovely glass but at 2.8 for PRIMES, you gotta be kidding me. Too slow for me. I dont like shoot wide open, but if I'm buying a set of prime lenses they better damn well be able to open up to at least T1.8. Heck most new primes are becoming standard at T1.5 (New canon primes, Rokinon primes)

The Cp2 vs. RRP is a hard choice honestly. You have name and quality, and then quality without much name... The price difference is close no? I would say RPP only because of the matching T stops throughout, that is a big deal when owning a set of lenses, you really dont have a true "set" of primes if your wide lenses can't be shot at the same T stop as your mid range.
 
RED PRO PRIMES -- It's not close. CP's breathe too much as for fungus... Never heard anything like that. Careful what you write about product unless you have made some control tests yourself. I am from Denmark and Sweden gets a fair bit of rain, maybe he needs to close his windows or keep his house or rental house dry, or dry it out to take better care of his lenses. Chances are if his RPP's have fungus so do the rest of them. Try them in store -- like I said it's not close. All you have to do is try the CP's in store, you will be sad if you are able to purchase RPPs and you go CP2... But again, I have no investment in this, other than what makes the best images and hands down RED PRO PRIMES... Not in the same league those CP's... RPPS are close to Masters than CP's are to RPPS.
 
I've owned a set of RED Pro Primes for 3 years... and now own a set of Zeiss CP.2 Super Speeds. I prefer the CP2's due to the Zeiss reputation which fare better in the rental market than the RED brand of lenses, Canon mount compatibility which allows my lenses to rent to more people, full frame for future proofing, much lighter weight, faster aperture than the RPP's, better focus marks, more blades (14 compared to seven on RPPs) for a more circular bokeh, five mounts available in Canon EF, Canon E, Nikon F, PL mount and MFT. Also many people I've met prefer a Zeiss look.

The areas I think the RED Pro Primes fare better in is sharpness and slightly lower price when compared to the CP2 Super Speeds.
 
I was the first to publicly test the RPPs (and posted the report here) and I can in all honesty say that they are better then ARRI UP's. The RPPs are truly amazing lenses and excellent value...
Having said that - I would now not recommend them. Why?

1. Seems discontinued. Not only many lengths are already missing from the store - but Jarred actually confirmed that lenses are no longer focus at RED. As he put it - when RPPs came out, there were very few choices back then. Not so anymore...
2. Size. The RPPs are huge and heavy (hence the build and image quality). Box set of RPPs will require a chiropractor visits on regular basis...
3. FF not covered by all RPPs. With Dragon months away this is a major issue...
4. PL only. Choices are gooooooooood...

Peter
 
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