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Which Motherboard for i9-9980XE 18 cores

Greg M said:
I went with:
ASUS Prime X299-Deluxe II
CORSAIR HX Series HX1200
Intel Core i9-9980XE
CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 128GB (8 x 16GB) DDR4 3200
LIAN LI PC-7NB
Qlogic QLE2562 PCIe x8 8Gbps Fiber Channel Dual Port HBA
Noctua NH-D15 Cooler
Titan RTX GPU

should have it together next week
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Nice rig, when possible try to get a good AIO-cooler(something like a NZXT kraken x62 or x72) that fits in your case, the Noctua us not really up to the task.
 
Björn Benckert said:
Change the cooler to something like this, well worth it. i9 gets to hot for the air coolers. Trust me I tested a few.


https://www.komplett.se/product/877...WMayCh2cnA-hEAQYASABEgJy0fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#




And no matter what get the grizzly thermal paste not the shit that comes with the Noctua.

Also what drive / drives will you use. The whole system runs better with a fast system drive. So avoid Sata and get a M2 drive, does not need to be a big one just to fit the the operating system.
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Thanks. Adding a cooler now...but it won't work with this case.
Any case recommendations?

Drive is SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB PCIe
 
water cooling is more efficient, a 120 aio may be close but a 360 would be better than that noctua cooler for sure. I'm sure EK will have a block for that titan rtx soon. I'd do a custom loop with dual 360 rads and one loop for the cpu/gpu
 
jay has a good video on it, its a good product. Not the same cpu in the video. the 9980 is a hot one.. https://youtu.be/vw4HONEkj4s. I'd still say go custom dual 360 rads. It'll run cooler and quieter than that air cooler. Now if its a computer your gonna lug around everywhere then by all means go air.
 
Testing the Noctua NH-D15 Cooler now and it seems to be handling the task well and silently.
Running a large Maya render with all threads at 100% and simultaneously playing FF 8K at Full with Titan RTX and temps never went over 70...averaged mid 60's.

The 8k footage took a bit of a hit (dropped frames and audio out of sync) with the proc at 100%...but I was shocked that it still played FF 8k at full
 
Greg M said:
Testing the Noctua NH-D15 Cooler now and it seems to be handling the task well and silently.
Running a large Maya render with all threads at 100% and simultaneously playing FF 8K at Full with Titan RTX and temps never went over 70...averaged mid 60's.

The 8k footage took a bit of a hit (dropped frames and audio out of sync) with the proc at 100%...but I was shocked that it still played FF 8k at full
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With a good AIO-watercooler(NZXT 62 or 72) you can overclock the i9-9980XE from 3.6 to 4.4 GHz all-core and then it can handle every kind of 8k.R3D you throw at it in real-time (as long as your gpu('s) can handle the de-bayer speed).
 
Misha Engel said:
With a good AIO-watercooler(NZXT 62 or 72) you can overclock the i9-9980XE from 3.6 to 4.4 GHz all-core and then it can handle every kind of 8k.R3D you throw at it in real-time (as long as your gpu('s) can handle the de-bayer speed).
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Yes even 4,7Ghz and r3ds of all kinds pour through like water.
 
Björn Benckert said:
Yes even 4,7Ghz and r3ds of all kinds pour through like water.
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You can PLAYBACK 8K FF r3d's in realtime in FULL?
Im using the beta RCX and even with Titan RTX it stumbles a few frames.

And just to clarify...my test was hitting the proc at 100% with a large Maya render while at the same time playing back 8kFF r3d's in FULL. I just wanted to see if the system would remain cool and it did with both proc and GPU at 100% for a sustained period.

BTW- the r3d's aren't local to the workstation. They are on a SAN connected via 8gb fiber.
 
Greg M said:
You can PLAYBACK 8K FF r3d's in realtime in FULL?
Im using the beta RCX and even with Titan RTX it stumbles a few frames.

And just to clarify...my test was hitting the proc at 100% with a large Maya render while at the same time playing back 8kFF r3d's in FULL. I just wanted to see if the system would remain cool and it did with both proc and GPU at 100% for a sustained period.

BTW- the r3d's aren't local to the workstation. They are on a SAN connected via 8gb fiber.
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Yes I have not tried on my system with 1:3 r3d´s but the 8k demo clip with the motorcycle in grandcaneon from reds web page plays just fine. And mine is far from full throttle only a bit overclocked with only one 1080ti (will have two in very soon).

My friend has a Der8er maxed out i9 and it supposedly plays any 8k r3d´s with AMD GPU. According to him resolve on osx runs better. As I understand the Beta is on linux only.
 
Greg M said:
You can PLAYBACK 8K FF r3d's in realtime in FULL?
Im using the beta RCX and even with Titan RTX it stumbles a few frames.

And just to clarify...my test was hitting the proc at 100% with a large Maya render while at the same time playing back 8kFF r3d's in FULL. I just wanted to see if the system would remain cool and it did with both proc and GPU at 100% for a sustained period.

BTW- the r3d's aren't local to the workstation. They are on a SAN connected via 8gb fiber.
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In Davinci Resolve Studio:

TR1950x at 4 GHz all-core can playback 8k.R3D 9:1 24 fps in real-time and 8k.R3D 7:1 24 fps in real-time when all possible back ground processes are stoped.
i9-9980xe at 4.4 GHz all-core is around 25..30% faster then the above mentioned TR1950x.
At stock speeds ~ 3.6 GHz all-core (with your cooler) 8k.R3D 7:1 24 fps should playback in real-time.

I.o.w. when you want to be able to handle any kind of 8k.R3D in real-time get a better cooler and use the GPU(s) for de-bayering and other effects.
 
Misha Engel said:
In Davinci Resolve Studio:

TR1950x at 4 GHz all-core can playback 8k.R3D 9:1 24 fps in real-time and 8k.R3D 7:1 24 fps in real-time when all possible back ground processes are stoped.
i9-9980xe at 4.4 GHz all-core is around 25..30% faster then the above mentioned TR1950x.
At stock speeds ~ 3.6 GHz all-core (with your cooler) 8k.R3D 7:1 24 fps should playback in real-time.

I.o.w. when you want to be able to handle any kind of 8k.R3D in real-time get a better cooler and use the GPU(s) for de-bayering and other effects.
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On osx, multiple 1080ti´s will do the trick until there is a hack / driver for the RTX2080ti.
 
Björn Benckert said:
On osx, multiple 1080ti´s will do the trick until there is a hack / driver for the RTX2080ti.
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We did it(TR1950x at 4 GHz all-core can playback 8k.R3D 9:1 24 fps in real-time and 8k.R3D 7:1 24 fps in real-time when all possible back ground processes are stoped.) under Windows 10 with 1 VEGA FE clocked at 1600 MHz, so one GTX1080ti (1800 MHz) should also be enough for real-time playback 8k.R3D 24fps in full-res premium in Resolve. With more effects we needed more GPU power.

We haven't noticed any significant speed difference between Windows 10 and Hackintosh on the same machine(less than 5%,margin of error).

With some waterblocks on the 1080ti (2000 MHz GPU and 1500 MHz memory )you can match or exceed the boost speed of the RTX2080ti.
 
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Björn Benckert said:
Yes I have not tried on my system with 1:3 r3d´s but the 8k demo clip with the motorcycle in grandcaneon from reds web page plays just fine. And mine is far from full throttle only a bit overclocked with only one 1080ti (will have two in very soon).

My friend has a Der8er maxed out i9 and it supposedly plays any 8k r3d´s with AMD GPU. According to him resolve on osx runs better. As I understand the Beta is on linux only.
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You are playing the clips in FULL. Can I see a screenshot of your debayer settings?
You likely have the debayer set at 1/4 or 1/2...this means you are playing it at quarter or half the resolution. Switch the debayer settings g to FULL and see what happens.
 

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Greg M said:
You are playing the clips in FULL. Can I see a screenshot of your debayer settings?
You likely have the debayer set at 1/4 or 1/2...this means you are playing it at quarter or half the resolution. Switch the debayer settings g to FULL and see what happens.
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Yep, full res premium at the color tab and we are not the only ones.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-Performance-1264/

It looks like you still have some tweaks to do, because your system should be able to do the same (and maybe even better).
 
Misha Engel said:
Yep, full res premium at the color tab and we are not the only ones.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-Performance-1264/

It looks like you still have some tweaks to do, because your system should be able to do the same (and maybe even better).
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My test was a simultaneous Maya Render with all the cores at 100% and at the same time I played 8K Monstro Footage at Full Debayer...this gave me about 20fps playback...but the processor was fully maxed out with the Maya render. But again, I wasn't testing playback, only stress testing the cooler.

I'll test playback only next week, I dont think we will have any issues with all other processes stopped.

The beta im referring to is the Nvida GPU tuned beta of RCX...its windows or mac
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?172922-NVIDIA-CUDA-RCX-Public(ish)-Build
 
Eddie Gonzalez said:
my shopping cart is only missing the MoBo; Which MoBo do you recommend;

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4) RAM, 128GB DDR4 4133, Corsair (8 x 16GB sticks)
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thank you !
Eddie
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I noticed on these builds, almost everyone goes with 8 sims vs 4, is this motherboard dependent or is the approach always to always use all the memory slots on the mother board?

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hmmm ... found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D8fhsXqq4o

note also ... from the motherboard guide : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...81.1267496867.1546812660-137192817.1546812660

it's kind of confusing and it references another document QVL. But if there is 8 sims, then it says the ram might need to be cooled ? (with fans?) . For the asus x299 deluxe 4 sims seems a bit easier to me and appears to still be 4 channel.

here's the QVL : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...13.1267496867.1546812660-137192817.1546812660
 
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