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Where to sync audio with video?

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I'm totally new to editing RED footage in Premiere CS6 on Windows.

Where should I be syncing my audio files (.WAV) to my RED video files so that I can begin editing.

Do I do still do this in the timeline in Premiere, or is this something I should be doing elsewhere?

How are you guys doing it?
 
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So.. I also would like to know if I should sync my non timecode audio to my clips in RedCine, and then open the clips in PP, or what?
 
I think these types of decisions are based upon type of workflow needed. While I do most of my editing in Media Composer, I prefer to sync in the NLE where I have easy access to sync with mix track only, match back to ISO tracks and stuff that the NLE does because of its parent/child relationship in clip creation. I also get just a wee bit more metadata from a direct import, but Redcine X Pro does a pretty good job overall keeping filename and track metadata for the editr to use. The other consideration is whether there is a sound process process where a conform might be needed to the original files, etc.

But, becuase of fast turnaoround, expectations on what a "daily" is and such, it may make sense to sync in RCXPro or dailies type program if that will be the final audio to be used for post, no real need for additional metadata and such. The deliverable, collaboration, and other requests usually dictate where sync is done for me. I need to play more with Prelude to see what it can prep from an audio perspective in a file-based workflow. It's a great tool to have, just need to explore it more for different workflow needs.

Michael
 
I also would sync in the timeline...if you are staying inside adobe....

you can link the audio and video in PPRO and it will create a new combined clip....
NOTE: this is not really a new clip....just a reference within PPRO....just for your convenience. It does not make a new file that you can then move to other systems (unless you render it)

If you have a timecode sync...it is like 2 clicks of the mouse...
If not you either have to do it manually, or use something like pluraleyes

If you are passing the file to multiple workstations/artists...then it may make sense to sync within redcine and export....
If you are a one man band...mostly staying inside adobe...I would just sync inside PPRO
 
Mike Harrington said:
If you have a timecode sync...it is like 2 clicks of the mouse...
If not you either have to do it manually, or use something like pluraleyes
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Like Mike says- 2 clicks per clip in Premiere. So if you popped off 90-100 shots each day, it's 200 mouse clicks x however many shoot days. I hope you remembered to wear your wrist brace.

As for Redcine, the GUI is pretty atrocious when it comes to manually syncing audio. Autosync is magic if your clips are organized correctly, but if you have overlapping TOD time code stamped files or mono stems (rather than polywav) in the same directory, I can guarantee you will have some clips with the wrong audio attached.

All that said, the Pluraleyes 3 standalone app would be my recommendation for your situation.
 
Doug Beatty said:
Like Mike says- 2 clicks per clip in Premiere. So if you popped off 90-100 shots each day, it's 200 mouse clicks x however many shoot days. I hope you remembered to wear your wrist brace.

As for Redcine, the GUI is pretty atrocious when it comes to manually syncing audio. Autosync is magic if your clips are organized correctly, but if you have overlapping TOD time code stamped files or mono stems (rather than polywav) in the same directory, I can guarantee you will have some clips with the wrong audio attached.

All that said, the Pluraleyes 3 standalone app would be my recommendation for your situation.
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Premiere Pro CC has some pretty magical syncing goodness. It can do wave form syncing very easily.

Cheers

Dave
 
Sounds amazing, Dave. That's a real time saver for people that don't work with time code and don't have Pluraleyes.

I'm holding out until Lightworks for Mac and Resolve 10's on-line editor to release and see how they handle sync.

Lightworks seems great from what I have read. Audio is treated like it is analogue which affords sub-frame accuracy when editing and scrubbing. Also, you put your associated audio and video in a bin, hit Auto synchronize and the job's done.

 
Doug Beatty said:
Sounds amazing, Dave. That's a real time saver for people that don't work with time code and don't have Pluraleyes.

I'm holding out until Lightworks for Mac and Resolve 10's on-line editor to release and see how they handle sync.

Lightworks seems great from what I have read. Audio is treated like it is analogue which affords sub-frame accuracy when editing and scrubbing. Also, you put your associated audio and video in a bin, hit Auto synchronize and the job's done.

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Premiere has had sub frame audio editing since we added Pro to the name. You can sync on a bin. See this blog post:

http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/...equence-with-clips-synchronized-by-audio.html

Cheers

Dave
 
Digging up an old thread here, but. How do I batch sync audio to r3d footage in or out of Pr so I can edit? I do not record audio to camera and the external audio has timecode synced with the Epic. When I batch sync in RCX Pr does not seem to read it.

Thanks!
 
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