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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Where does Red Rocket help?

Will Keir said:
On a new Mac Pro with RR, can you edit full rez in premier?
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Will, this all depends on what you mean by EDIT....just pure cuts? Like Blair, i'm asking WTF? I've got a RR card, Quadro 4000; 32gb Ram and can't do anything in Realtime on my 2009 mac pro.....1/2 rez to a point....as long as i let it buffer....so take that for what it's worth...but on RCX i can do it in FULL REZ---I ask WHY? what is NOT working in Premier or what is not optimized as of TODAY. Sure feels like something is screwed up somewhere.

Edit:...add some effects to your Raw clips and boom....i can't even get 1/4 rez playback....
 
Yeah, I feel you Johnny. I've got a pretty similar system but without full quality playback, I can't tell if my camera shots have shake or it's the computer. At least is sounds like I can check my shots in RCX.

How's 32gb ram working? Could it use more? Thinking about 24-64gb as a final update on this 2009 MP.
 
Johnny Friday said:
Will, this all depends on what you mean by EDIT....just pure cuts? Like Blair, i'm asking WTF? I've got a RR card, Quadro 4000; 32gb Ram and can't do anything in Realtime on my 2009 mac pro.....1/2 rez to a point....as long as i let it buffer....so take that for what it's worth...but on RCX i can do it in FULL REZ---I ask WHY? what is NOT working in Premier or what is not optimized as of TODAY. Sure feels like something is screwed up somewhere.

Edit:...add some effects to your Raw clips and boom....i can't even get 1/4 rez playback....
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Depending on the effects you add (not all support GPU/CUDA rendering), all the work is done in the CPU (or GPU). When the CPU has to do all the work with 5K footage I believe it doesn't matter if you have the Rocket (it just speeds up debayering/decompressing). And that's some heavy work for the CPU to do.
 
Thanks everyone for this as i'm currently in the same boat as to what to get for my iMac in use with the rr card. Hoping the new iMac in Dec will have some boosted specs and possible thunderbolt 2 as well.
 
D Fuller said:
Actual rendering. It's not really an output card except in RCX/RCXPro.
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That's generally true, but not completely. Colorfront allows use of the original Red Rocket as a video output device on both On Set Dailies and Express Dailies.
 
Map please

Map please

I think Colorfront is a cogent example of just what can be done if resource utilization is optimized.

I know CPU, GPU, RR, RAM and the processing pipeline are all factors - what I'm not clear on is the best way to parcel out tasks, or what external control one has over the processing pipeline. Starting with reading the R3Ds off storage all the way to rendered files/monitor output what would the flow chart look like?

I posted about this previously in hopes of gathering enough information about the topology to determine resource/budget allocation. Is there any chance someone at RED could publish a white paper with a flow chart that would assist RedUsers in creating the best R3D beasts they can at various budget levels? Also very interested in metrics for the .RED encoding process...

Cheers - #19
 
Sami Sinervä said:
Depending on the effects you add (not all support GPU/CUDA rendering), all the work is done in the CPU (or GPU). When the CPU has to do all the work with 5K footage I believe it doesn't matter if you have the Rocket (it just speeds up debayering/decompressing). And that's some heavy work for the CPU to do.
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does the card benefit projects say in premiere that doesn't involve red footage? Speed, processing, renders, etc?
 
Gotcha- thanks Paul
 
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