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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

What is really new?

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Leon, that's most appreciated! I love Paris, although I've only been the once!

Graeme
 
Finner said:
Why was Claudio not given a newer camera to use?
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When was that test done? Were there any "new" cameras ready at that time ? Are there any ready now, for that matter, except for an internal model that Red is still testing themselves? Did Claudio ask for a new camera? Would people here complain if he jumped the line? (I don't know the answer to any of these questions, I'm just asking).
 
Since we have several cameras coming from this next batch of "new" bodies, I'll see if I can't put a little generic shooting test between one of the new bodies and one of the "old" [1-100] bodies together.

Jim, just to confirm, will cameras 101-200 be of the "new" body design with all of the new toys?

If so, we'll have a new body on hand with several of our "old" bodies still in service before they're swapped out for X bodies in January.
 
Jannard said:
2. Data rate... we have the ability to increase the data rate if necessary. We are looking at that as another option.

We will always look at ways to increase performance and improve our camera. We are keenly motivated to get better everyday... at no cost to our customers.

Jim
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Casey Green said:
Have you thought about giving the user control over wavelet compression ratios? Perhaps you could have a default of "REDCODE Variable", but then also have other options from 2:1 to 10:1...

thinking out loud...
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Still would love to hear RED's take on this idea.

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4. Firmware improvements. The boot issue is gone. More features are enabled.
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Can you elaborate on this? Which boot issue? (The long boot time?) and what is different now?

Thanks.
 
Casey Green said:
Have you thought about giving the user control over wavelet compression ratios? Perhaps you could have a default of "REDCODE Variable", but then also have other options from 2:1 to 10:1...

thinking out loud...
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what i was thinking also, but im no engineer. I have no idea how this stuff works.

Either way, I'm definitely on the side of the fence of wanting the smallest file sizes possible while maintaining a certain level of quality. Having the option to for either would be best. :)
 
"at no cost to the customer"... hmm

maybe "at no or as little as possible cost to our customer."

I would think a good way o handle it is to wait until more production models are out and at a point when an acceptable amount of features are enabled and refined "lock it down." and then features added on after that point would cost a minimal amount. I on't want to see RED going under because of their generosity.
 
Pig said:
Amen to Häakon's post!

Also hope that image is "left alone", and that RED isn't going to make in-cam sharpening, despite many probably comparingraw footage and possibly complaining about RED's perceived "lack" of sharpness.
To a certain degree, and lower in the foodchain, HV20's cinemode is in the same boat.
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Amen to your amen. In camera sharpening goes against the grain (no pun intended) of shooting raw in the first place.

After seeing Mark's (offhollywood) blow up of RED footage, I have no doubt that visually it is more than sharp enough.
 
jbeale said:
When was that test done? Were there any "new" cameras ready at that time ? Are there any ready now, for that matter, except for an internal model that Red is still testing themselves? Did Claudio ask for a new camera? Would people here complain if he jumped the line? (I don't know the answer to any of these questions, I'm just asking).
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Here's Jim answer to your questions :

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Claudio did not have a "new" camera as defined as the ones that we will ship later this month. It did not have the new sensor settings, the new DSP, the new cold fix, and it had one of the early prototypes of the new mount (I think). We have offered Claudio to test the "new" camera as soon as they are finished. But he did test an "old" camera.

Jim
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found here http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6503&page=7

And by the way, I'm happy to hear about all these improvements, congratulations to the Red team. I was wondering about the differences between the old and new models, now I know. All I want to hear about now is how we are doing with delivery schedule. Are reservations holders 101 to 300 going to get their Reds for Christmas ? And what after, I know we'll be told when you're ready, but just so you know, I'm ready to hear.

Thanks again and have a great (short) holiday :-)
Damien


Cheers,
Damien
 
I really really like the idea of compression control from the end user pov...would be a really nice feature.
 
Nathan Buxton said:
I would think a good way o handle it is to wait until more production models are out and at a point when an acceptable amount of features are enabled and refined "lock it down." and then features added on after that point would cost a minimal amount. I on't want to see RED going under because of their generosity.
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You honestly think RED would accidentally go bankrupt? Jim's a clever guy I imagine he's not going to just run his company into the ground. If RED needed more money they would raise prices.
 
obin said:
I really really like the idea of compression control from the end user pov...would be a really nice feature.
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I'd have to be able to tell the difference and I'm not sure I could. Remember Redcode is a variable data rate compression already, it's just choosing the best rate for the given frame. I think that's right at least, Graeme?
 
It's variable within limits. It's only varrying I'm seeing by about 5-10% right now in real world conditions. (Often the variation is as little as a few KB per frame or less than 1%)
 
At the extremes (fully clipped sensor and dark sensor) I have seen frames as small as 800k so the delta looks fairly small at the current data rates.

Once there is higher writing speed media available (like the RED Drive) then having the option of tuning the data rate would be a nice feature.

Great thing is that these types of changes are firmware options, so who knows what's coming from the RED guys?
 
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