What do you plan on shooting with FIXED Scarlet ?

[Eddy Robinson]

Someone tell me why you can't make actual films for the big screen with the 8x fixed Scarlet? Several recent movies have been shot with 2/3" cameras (Benny Button comes to mind) and the photography is great.

You can, it'll be fine I think. It just won't be as flexible as with larger sensor sizes, and you won't be able to put the same variety of lenses on the front. On a film with a big budget the camera is a realtively small expense and you're much better off throwing a lot of money at a system everyone knows how to use, renting lenses that are guaranteed to give a good result, hiring a an experienced focus puller etc.

A smaller camera may give quite acceptable results, but if it is more complex and time-consuming to operate, you must multiply that time cost by the salaries and rental rates of all the cast, crew and gear. Certainly, a 2/3" scarlet is not going to give you the kind of lush, rich detail you can get from a larger sensor...but your film may not depend on that. When you're shooting an indie film, you have less money but you probably have more time flexibility, so you can afford to budget some of that time to deal with the idiosyncrasies of the camera.

 

[Eddy Robinson]

Porn. Admit it you liars, I know you're all thinking about those sexy slow motion climax shots :closed2ur0:

 

[Craig Schober]

i want the fixed scarlet precisely for any shoot necessitating small, unobtrusive, handheld work. those shoots might also require a red one (which i currently have) or epic (which i also intend to get) so i hope to even attempt to match a-cam / b-cam / c-cam footage when necessary but i'm not holding my breath on that one. as i've build up my red one package with accessories over the past 2 years, i've always seen the need for something small and simple and lost count on how many times i wished i had something almost as good as red one but a lot smaller. fixed scarlet promises to be just that.

 

[HD Hildebrand]

Sasquatch, Yeti and UFO's. I think my Red's too big and it's been scarring them away - I'm 100% positive that's been the problem.

 

[Kareldc]

Does anyone know if there's any test footage out there taken with the scarlet fixed zoom? I can only find the footage of the lizard and I'm guessing there's some serious glass in front of that scarlet.

Cheers,
Karel.

 

[Stephen Gentle]

Does anyone know if there's any test footage out there taken with the scarlet fixed zoom? I can only find the footage of the lizard and I'm guessing there's some serious glass in front of that scarlet.

Cheers,
Karel.

The footage shown so far has all been shot on Red Pro Primes. Nothing from the fixed lens has been released yet.

 

[Kalani Prince]

I'm guessing the fixed zoom will be close in quality to the mini primes....maybe I'm just refusing to be totally and fully optimistic :smiley:

 

[Jeremy_Sawatzky]

il be shooting weddings for a start, ive got a gig shooting guitar lessons right now, they will end up on sd dvds. so i dont entirly need the huge resolution BUT i need the res to zoom in on parts of footage. and even if i magnify 60% it will still look fantastic in sd. apart from that i want to get in on nature videography. being a cameraman in a helicopter shooting the alps for the next planet earth series is my dream job. i need to upgrade past my soccer mom sony handycam- i know ive maxed it out.

 

[Jeremy_Sawatzky]

rofl at changing the s-o-c-c-e-r m-o-m sony handycam.

 

[Philip Lipetz]

The footage shown so far has all been shot on Red Pro Primes. Nothing from the fixed lens has been released yet.

Assuming the fixed lens is good, and the forum does indicate a variability in Red zoom lens quality, I will use it for fixed interviews in documentaries where I can control the background.

Two questions:

Will it the focus close enough to also use it for special effects shots of constructed models? That would be great.

I plan on keeping my dslr for sleuth run and gun since the Scarlet screams "pro shoot going on here!" Or am I missing something since so many people are talking about using Scarlet for that purpose?

 

[Craig Schober]

I plan on keeping my dslr for sleuth run and gun since the Scarlet screams "pro shoot going on here!" Or am I missing something since so many people are talking about using Scarlet for that purpose?

up until jarred posted that dslr to scarlet side by side i would have agreed with you. after the brain, all you really need is power, a small lcd touch screen and maybe the redmote. that's not too much larger than canon, right?

 

[John Nguyen]

up until jarred posted that dslr to scarlet side by side i would have agreed with you. after the brain, all you really need is power, a small lcd touch screen and maybe the redmote. that's not too much larger than canon, right?

The Scarlet is significantly larger than the Canon 7D/5D, which is already much larger than a Panasonic GH-1. That photo of the Scarlet is next to the Nikon D3, which is much larger than the Canon 7D/5D you're referring to. A Nikon D3 about as large as DSLRs get. The Red Handle (your power source) looks to me like it would make the Scarlet about the same size as a Nikon D3. There hasn't really been a photo of the Scarlet with the handle attached next to something for scale.

For run and gun, I think you would be able to do it with a Scarlet, but it would be nowhere near as easy to pull off as a Canon 7D. I've pulled off run and gun with an HVX200, but it's not really comparable to say, a Panasonic GH-1, the king of stealth 35mm-esque movie making. And the weight of the Scarlet wouldn't even begin to compare to a DSLR. Scarlet = 5 to 6 pounds, the Canon 7D coming in at 2.5 pounds, the GH-1 much lighter. So yeah, I think you could do run n' gun with a Scarlet. You'll just have to plan well for it, which you should be doing with run n' gun anyways.

 

[Philip Lipetz]

The Scarlet is significantly larger than the Canon 7D/5D... For run and gun, I think you would be able to do it with a Scarlet, but it would be nowhere near as easy to pull off as a Canon 7D. I've pulled off run and gun with an HVX200, but it's not really comparable to say, a Panasonic GH-1, the king of stealth 35mm-esque movie making.

In addition to size, there is also the issue of form factor. The Scarlet is so unusual that it calls attention to itself. With my GH1 I have been admitted to American venues where all "pro" still and video cameras were excluded. Also I frequently film in India where any video filming can require a permit even though still photography is openly permitted.

I can film with my dslr in those situations, would that happen with Scarlet? I have no idea, but I feel that after I have my Scarlet I will run from using my dslr unless totally forced.

 

[Kalani Prince]

I think fixed Scarlet will be able to pull the stealth moves... It just looks like a DSLR that's been going to the gym is all...

 

[Mike Shugrue]

We plan on renting them in Vancouver for the smaller budget movies,documentaries and music videos, 3rd camera or back up. We will also go after the commercials designed for the web as well.
But just having the fixed will not cut it, you will need the Cinema Scarlet as well for a 2 camera project. We are not talking alot of money for these cameras compared to 2/3 inch Panasonic's or Sony's. The mini primes look interesting and would like see them first hand.

 

[Ben Coleman]

il be shooting weddings for a start, ive got a gig shooting guitar lessons right now, they will end up on sd dvds. so i dont entirly need the huge resolution BUT i need the res to zoom in on parts of footage. and even if i magnify 60% it will still look fantastic in sd. apart from that i want to get in on nature videography. being a cameraman in a helicopter shooting the alps for the next planet earth series is my dream job. i need to upgrade past my Hoochie Mama sony handycam- i know ive maxed it out.

I was starting to think that I was the only one doing that for a while there. We recently lost a client because they thought someone else was better because they shot "HD". We do shoot 720p already so I'm just the kind of guy that likes to one up everyone else. Plus its fun to throw out the buzz words of 3k and such to people that really have no idea what is really going on.

BTW, we shoot 720p but always burn to SD dvd's. I don't think anyone realizes that to get HD they need Bluray as well. We realize that everyone doesn't have Bluray, like your 80yo grandmother so why should we put out what they can use. Like I said, buzzwords, that's all some people see.

 

[Daniel Pearson]

I'm going to take the Fixed Scarlet - all plans going well, - to Hawaii and then Egypt, then possibly India.

Wanting to get a pretty bare bones Fixed kit, hopefully with the DSLR handle and/or Red Gunner (depending on the size and weight of the gunner), then hopefully an underwater housing...

Looking at narratively structured documentary work.

 

[Kalani Prince]

I'm going to take the Fixed Scarlet - all plans going well, - to Hawaii and then Egypt, then possibly India.

Wanting to get a pretty bare bones Fixed kit, hopefully with the DSLR handle and/or Red Gunner (depending on the size and weight of the gunner), then hopefully an underwater housing...

Looking at narratively structured documentary work.

What island ?..

 

[David Ergas]

Speaking of Youtube, I'd be greatly honored if any of you took the time to check out my latest short, it's called TINTO VERDE, just type that into youtube. It's got English subtitles so no worries.

It won a couple prizes in Europe but I always love new feedback...

 

[Rick Presas]

having the fixed will not cut it, you will need the Cinema Scarlet as well for a 2 camera project.

i humbly disagree.