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What Can we expect from scarlet stills ?

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The scarlet has a relatively low Megapixel count (4.5-5.0) but offers potentialy Still HDR (large dynamic Range.18 or so Stops) So will they print well at 8"x10" , how far will it be reasonable to push these images. Will the files be able to be read by Lightroom or Aperature ?
Tell me what you know if you have time thanks................
 
I suggest you take the Scarlet clip of Felix, and download Redcine-X 356E and give it a try.

I've printed out a 21" x 11.5" (roughly) 150 dpi print on our shop's Canon Prograph and it looks very good at that size. It would be 300 dpi on a 10" wide print.
At the larger 150 dpi size it looks better in many respects than a lot of low end DSLR's with far higher pixel counts.
Can't load the raw files in anything other than RC-X at the moment, but the grading tools available there are excellent.
You an download the files here: http://reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=705667&postcount=89

Nothing like learning about it yourself. Keep in mind these are early Alpha builds for both camera and software. It isn't bad at all now, but it will only get better.
 
I was kinda wondering the same.

I'm going to be doing a lot of skateboard videography and was curious to see if I could take a screengrab from the footage (shot at highest res) and submit it to a mag for publishing. For action sports this would be amazing (being able to select the exact frame from 120fps, instead of photographers now limited to 9 or 12 frames per second in burt shot mode).

Most mags require 300dpi and I'm pretty sure the mesurements are smaller than 8,1/2 by 11. Think it could handle this?
 
Graham Foulkes said:
Hopefully the red raw files will be fully integrated by aperature , lightroom etc .
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I hope so too. As good as Redcine is, it's always nice to have options. I expect once Epic/Scarlet are released companies will be jumping on board pretty quickly.
 
Aaron Power said:
I was kinda wondering the same.

I'm going to be doing a lot of skateboard videography and was curious to see if I could take a screengrab from the footage (shot at highest res) and submit it to a mag for publishing. For action sports this would be amazing (being able to select the exact frame from 120fps, instead of photographers now limited to 9 or 12 frames per second in burt shot mode).

Most mags require 300dpi and I'm pretty sure the mesurements are smaller than 8,1/2 by 11. Think it could handle this?
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Sure, 300dpi will give you close to a full page shot for most magazines. They are not printed at 300dpi, depending on the printing process, usually somewhere between 72-150dpi. Certainly 1/2 page and 1/4 page fill shots would be great. They want denser images to avoid moire issues with the screens when they go to press. Scarlet should be great for this as there is almost no aliasing visible that could cause moire issues for publication.
 
4-5 Mpixels is adequate for good reproduction. As Rob Galbraith (.com) once said, "all pixels are not created equally". In the early 2000s (that sounds strange), I was shooting with the then state of the art Canon EOS 1D with a 4 Mpix sensor. It was easily good enough for a glossy magazine page and, depending on the publication, a spread. With an inkjet printer, it could easily print to A1.

Going back a little further to '97 / '98, billboards were all shot by colleagues with the then greatest 6Mpix digital backs, costing $40k+.

Things have progressed a great deal and I have no fear for Scarlet being capable for at least a full page in a glossy magazine.

Magazines are typically printed at 133 or 150dpi. Halftones used to be created from continuous tone prints / transparencies with a process camera and a screen of either 133 or 150 (think of taking a picture through a sieve). A quality factor was employed to account for the pixel averaging that would take place. 4 pixels made 1 dot on the page. Typically the quality factor was 2x, hence 150dpi (dots per inch) x QF 2 = 300ppi (Pixels per inch) required.

Digital has changed the world and despite publishers and everyone down the chain asking for '300dpi', a lower QF of 1.5 is generally reckoned to be fine from good quality digital cameras, so 225ppi for a good quality glossy. Theoretically 1 could be used, but may, as David said it may result in moire. Typically though the image should simple be upsized in Photoshop with smooth bicubic resampling.

Nick.
 
I printed a 21" wide 150 dpi full rez tiff of a Felix frame out of PS unmodified except for minor grading. Canon ProGraf 24" printer running coated plotter bond, matte finish.
You could not see a pixel in that print except for some minor noise in the deeper shadow areas of the cat's mane. I was impressed!

Felix looked about like R1 footage before the new color science. Can't wait until they get the color matrix nailed and Redcine-X optimized for Scarlet's sensor. Should be significantly better.

The comment about all pixels are not created equal is certainly appropriate. Graeme & team's pixels are truly magic.
 
I suspected as much, but great to hear this confirmation David, thank you.
 
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