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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Weapon wish

I'd like to see some crazy stuff like:
1 Built-in wireless follow focus + new follow focus knob to comunicate with this (a mix of Foolcontroll and Optitron 2?)
2 Built-in wireless video feed
3 "Depth mapping", or what to call it, for keying without greenscreen (don't know if this is even possible)
4 Medium format sensor or a new mount with focalreduser for my Mamiya 645 glass. (I don't need this to be 12K - 6K is more than fine)
5 Zero fan noise (or close to zero)
6 Built-in ND
7 Longer batery life
8 A panel for access to user-changeable sensor and electronics for future upgrades
9 At least one audio input without a module
10 Gyro-data export to implement in post (Stabelize footage or make a 3D camera)
11 Built-in A.D.D. for stills
 
For me I am making this upgrade for many reasons, but also in hopes to ditch my DSLR most the time for time lapse-

  1. Improved lowlight
  2. Lighter Weight
  3. Better on power consumption.
  4. Better time lapse mode that includes auto black shade feature, shutter speed, ISO, and or motion mount ramping for day/night night/day transitions.
  5. Thumbnails in Previews
  6. Higher Frame Rates 300 at 4k plenty, but the more the merrier.
  7. Built in motion mount that has possibly to go to zero ND with no loss of light. (physically possible?)
  8. Faster boot times.
Ideas I like so far in this thread:
- New sidehandle with built in wireless follow focus
- Mini XLR
- Cooler Brain
- pro res option
- wifi built in (no brainer)

Either way I am locked in now, because Red really seems to listen to its customers, and is the only camera company that offers an upgrade path...hate trying to sell cameras. And not to mention their cameras produce redicuously amazing images.

Stoked for the now! Stoked for the future!

edi: for ideas on how to make Timelapse mode better.
 
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David Battistella said:
The nature of the electronic shutter will not allow this but I can tell you that you really should consider frame averaging or summing. That is the way to go.
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+1

Long exposures don't work on any RED cameras, even the RED One, due to the lack of a dark mask subtraction method and their electronic shutter blanking. When properly set up, frame stacking can give amazing results and seriously noise-free images. Yes, it's not exactly the same thing as long exposure. But my EPIC is a better time-lapse camera than any of my current DSLRs. I still really like my D810 though for it's extra pixels, full frame sensor and a few other things though... Different tools for different applications, ya know..
 
Yeah Pro Res would be amazing, I really doubt it'll happen but here in Aus the Dragon is loosing a lot of ground to the Alexa, Amira and now with the Alexa Mini it's going to be harder to try and hang onto the dragon.

An idea I've had for a while is recording in camera to a 1920x1080 codec or even a 3820x2160 Redcode Lite codec that is much easier to work with directly. Much like the XAVC codec in the Sony F55 which is a pretty great package.

Yes I know you can cut directly in Prem Pro etc but it's not really that practical. I have a Red Rocket-X and can transcode very quickly these days but still, a codec that is a bit easier data wise would be greatly appreciated I'm sure.

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What about the basics?

- Wider Dynamic range
- Better color science
- Organic texture
- Low light capabilities
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Yep I'd vote for that too.

Though I've changed to the Low Light OLPF and am much much happier that way, I'll never go back to the Skin Tone highlight, too much noise. Yes I know how to expose the bloody thing :-)
 
Wishlist:

-LUTs for monitor/evf out
-Two EVF/Monitor outputs on the body itself
-Possibility to run evf view at a higher (i.e. double) framerate, than when recording at 24 or 25 fps (i.e. run it at shutter speed)
-If recording at Super35, show the full sensor area in the EVF
-A lot less lag/delay on the monitor/EVF-ports, close to zero frames delay
 
Mark Toia said:
High Speed... up to 500 at a least.
Hi iSO range...

Thats about it for me.
Happy with everything else.
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Come on mark,

Do up the graphic with the dumb side TURBO module. Maybe a throwback to street racing and hood scoops. :)

Battistella
 
- Much better low light capabilities - ISO 5000 noise free would be nice
- Longer battery life (like 4-5 hours with one 160w battery)
- Lighter weight body
- Dual HD-SDI outputs
- TC input/output through BNC (switchable in the menu)
- Build in ND's or Motion mount with no minimal ND
- Possibility to record HD or UHD from the 6K sensor (Would be nice to have the choice between prores and R3D). RAW 1920x1080 using the whole sensor would be nice for simple shoots, so the downconvert happens incamera, but you still have RAW)
- Better framerates (at least stuff multipe of 25fps) 150FPS 6K would be nice, 300fps 4K
- Built in Wifi control from iphone/ipad
- 2 full size xlr inputs with Line/Mic choice
 
Ok I am not reaching for the stars.

1. In camera down conversion.
Where you could use full sensor view and shoot 5k, 4k, 3k and 2k and not having to crop sensor.
I think it would be amazing to even do 240 fps at 2k by utilizing the full sensor view instead cropping.
I am not an engineer, but for example it should be possible to use every second, or every forth pixels of the sensor.

2. Affordable peripherals.
I appreciate quality like everyone else here, but it doesn't have to be all machined out aircraft grade aluminum.
Considering some things become obsolete rather sooner than later.
I would not mind a switchblade carved out of wood. (no pun intended)
If it would drop cost to $150 a pop.
A low end / hi end version of some things would be great.

3. Audio recording mode only.
This might sound like a bizarre request, but trust me, I have been more than once in the situation where
I wish I could have done this differently than shoot 1kws just to record 2 min of extra VO of someone who
does not need to be on camera, or had to carry a extra sound recorder to get few min of background noise.
This could be a firmware ad on even for current cameras.

4. Optimized Cal Map workflow,
Blackshading cal maps loading faster, enough in camera memory to hold two dozen of them.
Having a marker underneath each stutter speed that indicates what shutter has a cal map and load it automatically by switching to it.
 
on number 3. That was brought up with the ver first RED ONE. It is not possible to record an r3d without the video data stream. What you can do is cap the lens and put the compression at 18:1 and that will get you a lot more recording time. My other piece of advice for this is to get your hands on a ZOOM H4 or an iMic that you can plug directly into your iphone to record 96K audio.

Battistella
 
James Falco said:
1. In camera down conversion.
Where you could use full sensor view and shoot 5k, 4k, 3k and 2k and not having to crop sensor.
I think it would be amazing to even do 240 fps at 2k by utilizing the full sensor view instead cropping.
I am not an engineer, but for example it should be possible to use every second, or every forth pixels of the sensor.
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It's called line skipping or binning and at least line skipping introduces skew. It's one thing RED does not accept as being a good idea. "line skipping not spoken here"

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?37011-October-30th&p=501372#post501372

That said I would love to have a possibility to record full frame and save space at the same time. So recording in 5 or 4.5K instead of 6K. Even if it wouldn't create high speed. There once was a plan to offer scaled 1080p with the 2/3 Scarlet. Maybe with the higher power of the new boards this becomes feasible with a true scaled down option.
 
Patrick Grossien said:
It's called line skipping or binning and at least line skipping introduces skew. It's one thing RED does not accept as being a good idea. "line skipping not spoken here"

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?37011-October-30th&p=501372#post501372

That said I would love to have a possibility to record full frame and save space at the same time. So recording in 5 or 4.5K instead of 6K. Even if it wouldn't create high speed. There once was a plan to offer scaled 1080p with the 2/3 Scarlet. Maybe with the higher power of the new boards this becomes feasible with a true scaled down option.
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You do realize that there are ways of doing a proper in camera down conversion on a pixel by pixel basis without any line skipping right?
Sony and Panasonic have been doing it for years.
 
I have two wishes for a Red camera, no noise ISO3200 and a fan-less weather-sealed body (like still cameras).
It might be impossible with the latter, but those two would be revolutionary to say the least.


...oh and a new battery technology that enables 1 battery to last a day.
 
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