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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

vimeo vs. youtube?

I always find Vimeo slower, and I like all the resolution choices in YouTube (in Vimeo even with a pro account, you, not the viewer, chooses between 720 and 1080 for HD playback, so I never use 1080 because a lot of computers, including my old laptop, don't play 1080p well). Also, YouTube has WAY more viewers. BUT Vimeo looks a lot cleaner, and doesn't have a length limit.

I often just use both.
 
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Vimeo 1080p smokes Youtube's so-called "1080p".
 
Youtube has "4k" but its rescaler seems to be a nearest-neighbor filtering algorithm. So you don't get supersampled video playback you get extremely aliased playback. I wouldn't recommend anyone actually using YouTube's 4k unless you anticipate your viewers to be able to natively watch the video on a 4k display.

A good 1080p Vimeo or Youtube stream would look a lot better on 99.9% of displays.
 
Another vote for Vimeo. Mostly interface, better image quality and so on. The only thing that really bugs me that I wish for a lot is skipping forward without having to buffer the entire video section - it makes it tedious when you want to view a small part of a giant clip.
Other then that vimeo smokes youtube. Youtube's quality options are a joke and 1080p is not even close to the real thing. If you are posting on one though, better have it on both. No real reason NOT to, right?
 
I am curious about how strict Vimeo regulates their "No Business Videos" Policy. That certainly limits what you can use it for.

Does anyone have insight on that?
 
Vimeo is way better in the quality of the video playback. Plus it has more of a artist community there where you can get some good feedback. Youtube does give you more people watching but I have seen peoples' videos on Vimeo blowup big. Just as big if not more than on Youtube.
 
Tyler Bourns said:
I am curious about how strict Vimeo regulates their "No Business Videos" Policy. That certainly limits what you can use it for.

Does anyone have insight on that?
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Yeah. It's pretty much "If we don't like you we'll pull your vids so don't abuse us. "

If it's creative work that isn't just an ad trying to sell something (that wasn't created by your company) you're fine. If you aren't trying to launch Miveo and use Vimeo as your hosting site you're pretty much fine. I've seen tons of studios use Vimeo for their portfolio streaming. I even ran across a pretty high profile VFX company which uses Vimeo embeded for all of their streaming. I haven't seen anyone run afoul of that so I've concluded it's just a CYA move on Vimeo's part.

We moved to Vimeo last week for our reel's player. The quality and player UI is better on Vimeo and we only have to maintain one set of uploads so it makes a lot of sense (http://www.straightfacehq.com/reel.html). Hopefully Vimeo won't nix it.
 
In my world the answer is "both." Different clients appreciate different environments, but ultimately, we maintain work on both services for most things for all the reasons listed above.
 
Why not use torrents? :smile5: The technology itself is completely legal.

That way you can p2p broadcast your work in 100 % quality without any limitations on resolution, runtime, size, traffic, etc. And also - without any risks for your copyright, as sites like Vimeo and youtube actually claim some rights to everything that is uploaded there.

Oh, I almost forgot. With torrent distribution you don't have to pay for hosting and traffic too :). You just have to leave you PC running and seeding the content.

And you don't even need a tracker... :001_smile:
 
Radoslav Karapetkov said:
Why not use torrents? :smile5: The technology itself is completely legal.

That way you can p2p broadcast your work in 100 % quality without any limitations on resolution, runtime, size, traffic, etc. And also - without any risks for your copyright, as sites like Vimeo and youtube actually claim some rights to everything that is uploaded there.

Oh, I almost forgot. With torrent distribution you don't have to pay for hosting and traffic too :). You just have to leave you PC running and seeding the content.

And you don't even need a tracker... :001_smile:
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...and IF your content is popular enough - and there is enough people worth the damn decency to seed - you'll have a FREE and FAST download service - all without having to do much, if any, legwork :)
 
I use Vimeo religiously, absolutely despise YouTube for all the junk that's put on there.

What both the sites need is a way to organize a users files into folders. Reason being if you use Vimeo privately for client rough cuts, it would be nice to have them look at all the older rough cuts and compare to the newer one, all on the same page. This means they wouldn't have to click back and forth on pages and have to reload the videos. Plus it would be great to have a user's page have their videos organized into difference sections, which would make it also more user friendly if people are interested in any particular type of video you produce.
 
Craig W. Bickerstaff said:
Quicktime h.264, there is a page on youtube which outlines all this you know.
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Youtube Limit:
2GB, 15 mins

From the Youtube upload page for uploading QT h.264:
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=165543

HTML: 
From Options:

In the Video section select the following:
Compression Type: H264
Frame Rate: 30
Data Rate: Automatic
(if you choose to restrict the Data Rate, make sure to choose the highest value acceptable to you — more bits means better quality)
Key Frames: Automatic
Frame Reording: Unchecked

In the Video section click Size and set Dimensions to the original size of your video (Note: HD resolutions - 1280x720 or 1920x1080 - preferred).

Select Prepare for internet Streaming and choose Fast Start from the drop-down menu.

In the Audio section, make sure that the audio codec is AAC. Always use AAC as the preferred audio codec.

Once you've made all of these selections, click the OK button to save your preferences.

Add a title to the video file and click the Save button to save your edited version of your movie. Your project will then be exported and be ready to upload to YouTube.

Above they mentioned 30 fps for QT ???

Then they mention using the QT Fast-Start converter:
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=182687
http://multimedia.cx/eggs/improving-qt-faststart/

Then they mention 24/25 fps as the best option:
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=132460

Which frame rate is best to shoot in for Youtube? 24 or 30fps?
 
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Why does Vimeo consistantly stutter?..YouTube does always seem to load very smoothly..
 
I haven't had stutter issues with Vimeo. The only time I've experienced anything sluggish was only a few seconds of time because the video finished loading. Once it completes the loading that moment in time that it's sluggish diminishes.
 
Justin Kirchhoff said:
I use Vimeo religiously, absolutely despise YouTube for all the junk that's put on there.
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Not to mention the very low quality of the comments. Videos on YouTube can get thousands of comments but it's mostly all rubbish. Vimeo is the opposite (not many comments but generally much better ones).

Graham_C said:
Why does Vimeo consistantly stutter?..YouTube does always seem to load very smoothly..
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Never had that problem either...
 
Stephen Gentle said:
Not to mention the very low quality of the comments. Videos on YouTube can get thousands of comments but it's mostly all rubbish. Vimeo is the opposite (not many comments but generally much better ones).
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Absolutely agree the comments are piss poor. Shows you how disheartening users can be, and down right mean. More than half the people on there have nothing good to say about anything. Very negative. I like to shy away from those situations.
 
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