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Ultra High Frame Rate Brain

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Mark L. Pederson

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Jim -

I think you should do this. And I know you can.

I'm close to pulling the trigger on a $120,000K+ for a Phantom - at $4K a day rental with cinemags - I can ROI in one year with my eyes closed and make money on the post services.

Why not make a ULTRA HIGH FRAME RATE BRIAN for Epic - $75K or so ... it would still be a bargin.

It would be GREAT to be able to offer a high speed brain as a rental item for other foks who have Epic systems -

And since you are modular - why not make your own MONSTER RAM RAID with GigE offload??

Don't worry Mitch ... I know they wont make it fast enough and I'm 90% going to buy a Phantom from you anyway -:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
 
I'd buy it.
 
Until this thread, the idea of renting a brain did not really click.

You buy the brain and accessories that you can afford and get the most use out of. You need more capability for a job? No problem, just rent a different brain. You have the rest, so this is an easy swap for a job. When the job is done, return the rental brain and go back to your normal brain.

Sorry to derail the thread.
 
And I would rent it from you guys.

So would the company I work for. We just did the Food Network rebrand and it is 95% Phantom footage (and some HV20 ;).

Maybe we should start making a list of original, cinematic slow-mo stuff to get Jim motivated...

How about the beginning of the new Watchmen trailer to kick it off?
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=75031208&sdm=web&pt=rd

On total opposite indie end of the spectrum, here's a music video my buddy Christian directed that I was vfx super / colorist for. Shot in half a day on the old 800x600 Phantom. Total budget under $2500 I think.
http://www.vimeo.com/828124

Personally I am very interested in shooting 1000fps for vfx purposes. If you have lights that you can sync to the high speed shutter then you can relight in post.

I think there are a LOT of possibilities there for incredibly creative groundbreaking stuff.

Take a look at the video, from about 1/3rd of the way in.
http://gl.ict.usc.edu/Research/RHL/

While you're looking into it, having an easy way for indies to keep the damn lights in perfect sync with the camera would be nice ;)

Doesn't need to be as ambitious as that crazy lighting ball of course.

If RED can make it stupid-easy for us to sync lights to the camera at very high speeds it'd be a game-changer.

I think it'd be used in a lot more feature films, music videos, commercials, etc than a Linhof-format camera would. And it'd be used in more interesting and creative ways too.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Stacey Spears said:
Until this thread, the idea of renting a brain did not really click.
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Really? Well, anyway... I think the whole modularity approach is just perfect for a rental brain application. Think about it... The accessories are all compatible across the DSMC line. You buy the brain that best fits your every day needs and budget. Then if you have need for one of the bigger ones, you rent it and drop it right into your system.

I would love a ultra high frame rate brain. I would use it occasionally, but I could rent it out like crazy.
 
What about a REDHead type of... *Brain* :), like the SI2K-Mini.

Just the head which feeds a dedicated laptop which takes care of processing?
 
Offhollywood said:
Jim -

I think you should do this. And I know you can.

I'm close to pulling the trigger on a $120,000K+ for a Phantom - at $4K a day rental with cinemags - I can ROI in one year with my eyes closed and make money on the post services.

Why not make a ULTRA HIGH FRAME RATE BRIAN for Epic - $75K or so ... it would still be a bargin.

It would be GREAT to be able to offer a high speed brain as a rental item for other foks who have Epic systems -

And since you are modular - why not make your own MONSTER RAM RAID with GigE offload??

Don't worry Mitch ... I know they wont make it fast enough and I'm 90% going to buy a Phantom from you anyway -:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
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What kind of format size/frame rate do you need?

Jim
 
Marks and Bruce have got a point. A valid one, at that. Our company has done a number of Phantom shoots in the past two months. It could only get better if the image were coming from something as sweet as a RED camera.

I'd rent it.
 
Jannard said:
What kind of format size/frame rate do you need?

Jim
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2K 1000fps is the slam dunk - however, 500fps is pretty damn extreme.

Since it's a module - you can choose a OLPF, processing power, etc. just to pull off the frame rates - EVEN if you can't get that into REDCODE in real time - it still would rock -

in fact ...

how about a big ram-raid buffer - that then crunches to REDCODE in the background?
 
I think this is an awsome idea. For RED and for its customers. Id buy one.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here a bit more... I think 3K @ 1000fps would be the slam-dunk. That would give much sharper 2K/1080p output. Any resolutions higher than that would be gravy. A 3K S35mm EPIC that shoots 1-1000fps would be sweeet.

Anything over 1000fps is purely for technical applications, IMO. And Vision Research already makes a wide range of cameras to accommodate this market.

On the other end of the spectrum, I'm really hoping that EPIC and Scarlet will have some capacity to do long exposure work as well.
 
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