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TRIPOD FOR RED ONE

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Robert Wauu

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Hey guys, would be cool if you shared what tripods you use with your Red Ones and how it works out for you? Thank you.
 
I use manfrotto 536 carbon fiber tripod and manfroto head 509HD, the tripod is very good but the head not so good, manfrotto clayms the head will hold 13kg, but my R1 setup is about 10 kg and if I want to film up ur down, even with everything well tight, the camera will start to move a bit...

Maybe the head is ok, but I came from photography and I was used to heads that would hold the camera and lens exactly in the place I let it without moving, and I used a canon 600mmf/4 lens that and canon 1D IV, for photography this was one of the heaviest setups.
 
Thanks Mark. I was more curious what all the new "BT R1" owners are using because there are a lot of new owners who seem to be "indies coming from the dslr world" and people that are on a tight budget, as myself ;)
 
Robert Wauu said:
Thanks Mark. I was more curious what all the new "BT R1" owners are using because there are a lot of new owners who seem to be "indies coming from the dslr world" and people that are on a tight budget, as myself ;)
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Yeah Robert, a lot of the comments you get here are from seasoned professionals working on union shoots or commercial productions. I worked in this paradigm while going to school and for pay, but now for my own work I go indie to the extreme. It's how I've been able to make movies that I want to make, but you do have to make compromises that guys in the field would never make.

I was lucky that I bought most of my equipment for my Aaton S16 rig before I started to move into indie DV/DSLR. So I'm using a Bogen/Manfrotto 510 which seems to work fine with the R1MX and Nikon lenses. I did have it service about two years ago. I also have Doug Underdahl's Seven Jib arm and dolly which have been rock solid for over a decade. I'm thinking of buying the Cavision 3x3 mattebox. It's smaller but functional, and a regular mattebox would be overkill for my Nikon set.

Moving into the R1MX for me is like going back to S16 days, with expensive accessories and a need for able bodies on set, but I'm enjoying it. RED has given us a rare opportunity to straddle two worlds. It's good to move out of the DSLR world and into a place like this where you have a new mix of indies with traditional professionals willing to share their knowledge. Yup.
 
You can also lookmfor an Oskar Heiler EB60 for example. they are more or less the same as sachtler, but Heiler is out of business, so you can get them very cheap. :) I found an Sachtler superhydro 35 for the Arri 2c (there is still another one on ebay) and I paid 300€. Didn't get it yet. I hope it will work for me. ;)
 
Robert Wauu said:
Thanks Mark. I was more curious what all the new "BT R1" owners are using because there are a lot of new owners who seem to be "indies coming from the dslr world" and people that are on a tight budget, as myself ;)
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I know what you mean, there seem to be new people working out other ways of making things work given the current R1 situation.

Tripods is a toughie tho, there isn't much of an alternative beyond the real thing.

The only other possible solution I have thought of, would be to modify some old gas lift chairs to create a camera pedestal.
It obviously would not be very portable, but you can easily find gas life chairs in the trash and I reckon that if you connected two gas lift columns you could easily adjust the height with it. You might even find you can produce interesting effects. You will have to give up on stable pans for ever and ever tho, but it would support the weight of the camera as it can support the weight of people.

Could work maybe for a very low budget studio pedestal system.

Otherwise handheld and shoulder mount seem to be the low budget options I'm afraid.

Freya
 
I use an older Miller 30 with a 100mm head. It feels nice and solid, even though the head is probably 20 years old. I have a fairly new Vinten with a 75mm head but it doesn't feel solid enough for my scarlet rig.

For my money I'd rather have something solid and smooth to hold my rather expensive camera rig :)
 
I use the Satchtler Video 25 and its great!
 
got my sachtler superhydro 35 (for arri 2c) today and it works like a charm! 299€ for the head, 115€ for Heiler 150mm legs and 200€ for a sachtler groundspreader! 614€ all together! beat this! :D
 
I've been using a Manfrotto 526 head with whatever the legs it came with were (nothing special), but it can easily hold the load (30lbs right now). It says it can hold to around 35, so I'm happy with it. Managed to bid on a brand new one on ebay for under $900 with legs and case, and free shipping. Totally worth it.
 
go with a Oconner 50D, you won't regret it...
 
I was considering getting a new tripod for my Red. But after getting the camera in the mail and mounting it on my Bogen 503 (rated at 13.6lbs) w/ Manfrotto sticks, it seems to work just fine. In fact it reminds me of the Dvx100 days when I used to mount that camera on this same tripod system. Now that I have done this, the thought of putting $2k into a tripod system (Oconnor 50) seems like a waste. I'm re prioritizing thusly:
Canon L primes
Tokina wide zoom
Chinese Steadicam

I'm open to listening if anyone thinks my thinking is flawed.

Thanks
 
Robert Wauu said:
I'm actually leaning towards the MILLER ARROW 55, I wonder if anyone knows the practical difference between these two:

http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.php?t=product/miller_1741

http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.php?t=product/miller_1726

Different CF sticks, but does anyone have any input which one to get?

Thanks..
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I've been using the Miller Arrow 55 head with my Red One cameras since August 2007, and with Epic cameras since February 2011. With lightweight Epic loads I also use my two other Miller heads - the Compass 25 (supports 8 to 32 pounds) and Compass 15 (supports 4 to 21 pounds). With the Arrow 55 and Compass 25 heads I use both the Miller Sprinter II mid spreader CF 2-stage legs, and the Miller Solo 1505 CF spreaderless legs. With the Compass 25 head I use the Solo CF 2-stage spreaderless legs.

I love Miller heads and legs! In my opinion they provide the best cost to performance ratio available...

In answer to your question, the package with the Sprinter II legs is the better of the two - because the Sprinter II legs are lighter.
 
Steve Gibby said:
I've been using the Miller Arrow 55 head with my Red One cameras since August 2007, and with Epic cameras since February 2011. With lightweight Epic loads I also use my two other Miller heads - the Compass 25 (supports 8 to 32 pounds) and Compass 15 (supports 4 to 21 pounds). With the Arrow 55 and Compass 25 heads I use both the Miller Sprinter II mid spreader CF 2-stage legs, and the Miller Solo 1505 CF spreaderless legs. With the Compass 25 head I use the Solo CF 2-stage spreaderless legs.

I love Miller heads and legs! In my opinion they provide the best cost to performance ratio available...

In answer to your question, the package with the Sprinter II legs is the better of the two - because the Sprinter II legs are lighter.
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Thank you Steve. I will order the Arrow 55 with Sprinter II CF legs. I wonder if I can use it when I upgrade to epic later on since the RED ONE fully rigged is so much heavier than the Epic ....
 
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