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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

TOIA's NAB / DAY 2 / The stand outs.

noah newtown said:
you cant compare pp with smoke ...smoke is a high end colorcorrection tool pp not at the moment..we all wait for the day adobe will intergrate ae or even photoshop in premiere:)
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Isn't that why they integrated Speedgrade?
And no, Smoke color correction tools are not really high end. More like low-to-medium:wink5:
 
jake blackstone said:
Mark.
How about a little perspective? You did notice, that all Smokes in the booth were running on an iMacs, right? Lousy GPU, no CUDA. No RedRocket too... That was the whole point of showing, that now Smoke dramatically reduced hardware requirements, allowing it to run on a Macbook, if needed. With expansion Thunderbolt enclosure you can connect RR, if so desired. That all wasn't possible before. So, how can you expect any type of performance on an iMac in 4K? Adobe, of coarse, running their stuff on a fully tricked out towers with RR. If that is what you're after, get a tower and Smoke runs, just like you'd expect it to run on a top notch hardware. People keep insisting on editing in 4k, why? Do all your editing in Prores or DnxHD, tell Smoke to reconnect to R3D and finish in 4k, if that is what you're after. Isn't that easier?:smiley:
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Hi Jake..

Im looking for a LAPTOP work flow. I have done the flame thing for many years.. I know the drill.

So hence your IMAC's with smoke in them was exactly what I needed to see...

I have made all the ADOBE guys demo me on there laptops... To be fair.

:)

Don't worry. I'm still a AUTODESK fan.. but I'm wanting to work quickly in 4k for obvious reasons or half res which in EPICS case is 2.5k viewing... and I don't want to transcode anymore and end up with dupicates of everything in PRORES and RAW...

Plus... SMOKE edit.. was . well.. not great, But you new that already. But hey.. FLAME / SMOKE still has the best KEYER in the business.. LOVE IT!
 
Mark Toia said:
Hi Jake..

Im looking for a LAPTOP work flow. I have done the flame thing for many years.. I know the drill.

So hence your IMAC's with smoke in them was exactly what I needed to see...

I have made all the ADOBE guys demo me on there laptops... To be fair.

:)

Don't worry. I'm still a AUTODESK fan.. but I'm wanting to work quickly in 4k for obvious reasons or half res which in EPICS case is 2.5k viewing... and I don't want to transcode anymore and end up with dupicates of everything in PRORES and RAW...

Plus... SMOKE edit.. was . well.. not great, But you new that already. But hey.. FLAME / SMOKE still has the best KEYER in the business.. LOVE IT!
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Valid points Mark. Smoke, even the new 2013 iteration isn't really something you'd want for it's editing capabilities, no matter what Autodesk says. It's better, than before, but, personally I feel, that it is still has a LONG way to go to catch up to any stand alone editors. That's not what it's for. It's designed to be fed an XML, EDL or AAF, conform and finish. If you're looking for an editor, Smoke is not it. Finishing tool par excellence? Yes!
 
Hey Mark,

Great to meet you in person. Glad you could make the journey. :)

Mark Toia said:
There was a silent buzz going around the NAB camps that APPLE are about to release 4k/5k led 27 inch for under 3k. (Thunderbolt). Using the same tech as the new IPAD3.... How true this I do not know... I do know of somebody that has seen this monitor in the flesh last year. but !!!!... APPLE are shockingly quite these days. Who the hell knows that they are doing...
So knowing that this miracle monitor is (possibly) coming out from APPLE... is it wise to buy a PRO Monitor as yet.... Apple LEDS are amazing, there is know one disputing that. a 4/5k version. WOW...
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I'm sure they will release a high resolution display at some point, either as a desktop display a TV or both. Everyone at NAB that had monitors to show were also showing 4K (or Quad-HD / near-4K). At least most all of them were. The Apple rumor keeps circulating and I'm sure they have had several prototypes. Right now I think it's a matter of the display panels reaching the right price for Apple to make it happen. Samsung, Hitachi and LG all supply LCD panels to Apple for their Cinema Displays and iDevices. They all make 4K/QFHD panels now.

Ok... ADOBE... Here me now! Some of the guys demoing your creative suites are useless... (nice people though) They amount of times I asked questions to the reply of .... uuuuuummmm... Im not sure if it can do that. Or I'm not sure how to do it... Der!!! Was starting to drive me nuts.

That said... I'm not worried. Ive seen it working with my own eyes... I've seen R3D's paying out live.. THATS SOLD FOR ME!!! 1/2 res playback is still better than 2k res. I can deal with that. SPEED-GRADE is good... BUT I NEED SOMEONE GOOD THERE TO SHOW ME IT PROPERLY !!!!!!!
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Totally! There seemed to be a lot of this on the show floor this year... Bad dose of it at the BlackMagic booth during the Resolve 9 demo. I had a couple questions, but didn't bother to ask after the guy demoing the software responded to all previous questions with "uhhh... I'll have to ask the guys in back and get back to you.". When he switched over to a project in 3D, he had to set his display to side-by-side input rather than top/bottom. It was a JVC passive (same one they have been using at the booth 3 years in a row now). It's a horizontally-interleaved polarization display, meaning scan-line polarizing filters. So they didn't even have Resolve configured optimally for the display this time around, which means that instead of half-resolution for 3D, we were seeing 1/4 res... Looked like crap. But Resolve 9 itself looked super promising, I can't wait to get it installed and running!

Premier.. sweet. I asked the ADOBE to to give me 5 minutes to tinker... and I did everything FCP did and more... I just have to fund out were all there buttons hide. I think about 1 week it will take and I will be fluent with it.
MAC laptop... with PREMIER.. SSD drives! MAX out the RAM... There is know skimping on horse power. R3D's are still heavy.
MAC TOWER work... CUDA CARD! speed the money on the big one.. There is know skimping on horse power... For pretty much realtime everything.
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Adobe CS6 is looking great. Premiere and Photoshop updates look amazing. Speedgrade is bundled. Awesome.


Hope you have / had a great time with the rest of your stay in Vegas!
 
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