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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

time for a change - FCPX or Resolve???

Resolve.

Check the project preferences of both. That should tell you enough.
 
Peter Moretti said:
My experience with 14 is that it's somewhat of a disaster if you are used to using a program like Media Composer. I have not used 15 yet, and I know they've made improvements in editing. And while I say "somewhat of a disaster" that's in relation to Media Composer.

The program is improving all the time and the development team is very cool and responsive based on the interactions that I've seen them have with user (including me).
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Mmmmm interesting

Yep 15 looks pretty good, might be the ticket
 
Interesting thread. Just for a bit of balance.

I've tried changing to both these systems and keep coming back to PPro.

Recently i tried R14, i love the concept, the UI and many things but found it clunky and slow on large edit projects. PPro has always been pretty stable for me, even with 7k files in a project. I will keep trying though because the promise of it is great.

I use FCPX on my laptop as well, never in anger but i like it. Hate the media management and events thing though.

I'm a heavy NukeX user so i ought to be using NukeStudio but never had a chance really. I'm interested in the fusion aspect of Resolve but fusion was never quite where Nuke is, with openness and flexibility so it would be a compromise (albeit a cheap one!)

So try carefully. The grass isn't always greener on the other side!

cheers
Paul
 
Plus and minus with both

FCPX
+ Probably the best for organizing with it's meta tag. Very fast for reviewing.
+ Has tons of finished effects and titles and sound effect that quickly can create different results
+ Stable and well implemented. Exporting sound to Pro Res with plugins works well
+ Very easy with transcoding files. They can even be done automatically in the background
- Apple doesn't seem to take it that seriously. I think it is evolving far too slowly when it comes to features.
- You are looked to Apple which is the dealbreaker for me
- Color grading is not great

Resolve
+ Extremely good color grading. Color tools, tracking are brilliant. Also in Studio you have some good effects as well.
+ New features are being added extremely fast. Faster than no other program
+ You can edit and grade to a high level in the same program.
+ Sound and VFX are getting way better, but still work in progress
+ You can build a crazy powerful PC and still work on Mac
+ If you find a bug it will likely get fixed pretty soon. That is NOT the case with Apple, but to be fair they don't have many bugs either.
- Edit and organisation is very well done, but not all features have been implemented so it could be that you just hit a snag that has not been implemented.
- Sound is very New. I would not be sure if I trust its audio exports to Pro Tools either.
- Many smaller organization features are still missing in 14 at least. You cannot create small filter for videos that are bigger than 4k for example. I could not get it to work to create filters for marker sections either. I also miss that you cannot mark a section for "deleted" on a clip like in FCPX. Also you cannot view thumbnails AND see the "picture summary of the clip" like in FCPX.
- Setup is very powerful, but also much harder to do with preferences etc. You really need to invest time in experimenting to find the best settings.

All to all I would say that Resolve is where the future is heading. I would suggest play around with it and write down the exact pipeline that you need. Then test it. Does every step works along the way.

We use Resolve for all our smaller edits and love it, but I would do a very careful test for say a feature movie to make sure that all steps are working.

Best!
 
AndreasOberg said:
- [Resolve] Sound is very New. I would not be sure if I trust its audio exports to Pro Tools either.
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An early report from the Resolve Beta 15 forum is that Pro Tools exports now work perfectly, and as expected, with audio handles. I haven't tried this myself yet (my audio engineer is out right now), but will do so soon. Resolve 15 looks like an absolute Tour De Force.

I agree with other comments about the fundamental differences between FCPX and Resolve. FCPX is a new way of doing things, which, if you can wrap your mind around it, can be great. Resolve supports the "tried and true" with such an array of features that it makes me wonder: would we ever have needed something new if we had all this power, flexibility, integration, and performance at our fingertips to begin with?
 
This video argues the idea that the original paradigm embedded in legacy FCP, Premiere, Resolve is not really "non-linear" but rather an extension of the linear editing paradigm started with film while FCPX is the first real NON-linear editor. However you feel about that, it does illustrate in detail the different methods to cutting the material. Might be worth the time to review it given that you will be living with the decision on a daily basis going forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=yzcnXFhTC1k
 
I went from FCPX to Premiere to Resolve. I'm learning Fusion now and waiting for Resolve 15 beta to fix the integration.
 
I went from PPro to Resolve last year and am very pleased. I did buy licenses because I want all the features, they are really fair, the updates come without burden and I think licensed software is the fair way to sell software and am grateful to Resolve for their efforts. I find the subscription model to be onerous and unfair for many classes of users. Worse, it doesn’t provide the necessary incentive to the company to improve their offerings as evidenced by the bloated monsterous money machine CC has become for Adobe. IMHO.

I’m getting faster, and learning Fusion. It is very capable and I find the node model really helpful. In fact, I’m waiting to upgrade to 15 because I’m in the middle of a project using fusion and just want to mitigate surprises. I don’t have any really long projects but just edited one that ran 45 mins without issue, but the timeline wasn’t all that deep so I can’t reallly say that Resolve is as good as PP for longer projects. I’d bet it is, though.

I’m using IPP2 with the luts and am happy with the results there too
 
thanks everyone

I've downloaded Resolve 15 (been doing all my colour work happily in v12!) and will give it a run on my next offline
 
I’m testing the free version of Resolve. Honestly might be switching from premiere. My question though, can you edit an after effects or premiere project file somehow in resolve? I’m guessing not, but most of my colleagues are editing on those two platforms.
 
Resolve 14 has made leaps/bounds, but it's still comparative clunky and I still run into performance issues (whereas, FCPX flies)... That said, it's really easy to go from FCPX>Resolve and I'm hoping with Prores raw I'll be able to stay raw and go *back* to FCPX if I need to (for titling/whatnot, which I still find way easier/better/faster on FCPX).

I can't get over Resolve though... It's so rad what BMD is doing.
 
Terry VerHaar said:
This video argues the idea that the original paradigm embedded in legacy FCP, Premiere, Resolve is not really "non-linear" but rather an extension of the linear editing paradigm started with film while FCPX is the first real NON-linear editor. However you feel about that, it does illustrate in detail the different methods to cutting the material. Might be worth the time to review it given that you will be living with the decision on a daily basis going forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=yzcnXFhTC1k
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Terry - this is a fantastic video. I still float between Premiere and FCPX (hopefully adding Resolve into the mix once I get some study time this summer) but this is a perfect illustration of what I love about FCPX (for the right projects - Interviews, BTS, non-fiction stories). I'll have to share with some of my FCPX hating friends! It's not perfect for everything, but it does speed the workflow remarkably for certain types of projects. Thanks for sharing!
 
Montgomery Sutton said:
Terry - this is a fantastic video. I still float between Premiere and FCPX (hopefully adding Resolve into the mix once I get some study time this summer) but this is a perfect illustration of what I love about FCPX (for the right projects - Interviews, BTS, non-fiction stories). I'll have to share with some of my FCPX hating friends! It's not perfect for everything, but it does speed the workflow remarkably for certain types of projects. Thanks for sharing!
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Yeah - I think it just articulates what a lot of us feel intuitively. There is a sense of advancement with FCPX that is hard to explain until you actually experience it but this video goes a long way toward that explanation.

The frustrating thing for me in listening to the FCPX haters is that the criticism is usually based on complete ignorance. Often just claims that FCPX "can't do" something that it actually can (they just know know how). That is completely understandable on one hand because logic will tell you that no one who hates something is going to bother to learn it. Of course, what we often observe is that once they do bother to learn it, they stop being haters. LOL
 
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FCPX all the way, because you can work natively with REDcode in the edit.

No prores rendering, just use REDcineX for colour (Canadain spelling, I'm Canadian).
 
I switched to DaVinci Resolve.. I like it..Just got V15 - so I just started trying that out.
 
Blair Thornton said:
FCPX all the way, because you can work natively with REDcode in the edit.

No prores rendering, just use REDcineX for colour (Canadain spelling, I'm Canadian).
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???

You can work natively in any of the packages mentioned in this entire thread.

Honestly any of the apps mentioned here have their pros and cons and given enough time you will grow to hate any of them. So yeah, just have to try for yourself. If your experience with Premiere is OSX only though, then I understand why you're looking. (OSX Premiere is a dumpster fire)

The one key question around FCPx is its the only app here that is restricted to OSX....So you'll have to answer for yourself whether you're comfortable with pretty much constant uncertainty over whether they'll continue releasing pro hardware.
 
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