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Thoughts on HyperDeck Shuttle 2?

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http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/hyperdeckshuttle/


Blackmagic just announced this new version it appears, and it looks interesting to me (not the least of which because it's affordability)

Would love to hear your thoughts.


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BMD Support page says you can download v2.0 Beta 2 for Windows, but the file that gets downloaded is actually the Beta 1 version from last month.

edit: Never mind, they updated the link while I was typing :)
 
Madjid El ayari said:
A very unexpensive affordable way to record 4,2,2 prores or dnxhd !!!

I never tried it !

how do you power it and how you do playback with this tools ?
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It has an internal battery. Lasts a decent amount of time. You can play out on either HDMI or SDI, which have their own dedicated outputs.
 
roryhinds said:
No TimeCode in so no real use for editing and syncing back to R3D's.
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This was the issue I've ran into with it. It also only takes a video signal, with no options for any kind of metadata or RS control. I've used both the Studio and the Shuttle, but we've used them as delivery methods for color correction. Essentially, ran our Avid timeline through SDI to the Shuttle, then used an EDL to match the cuts. That was easy though, because there was a burned in timecode in the calibration materials.
 
This looks awesome. Of course, you don't get live playback and navigation directly on the device on camera, but that's not a huge issue.

For the life of me, I don't understand people begging for a proxy module from RED when there are so many options on the market.

As for timecode, though, I don't see anything preventing you from running SMPTE LTC directly to one of the camera's stereo channels. That's how it's done with HDSLRs...
 
I think for those of you looking for buy the ATOMOS Ninja, this is a better way to go. It lacks a monitor, but if you have the touch or anything else, you're fine.

I am definitely considering it.
 
TC or no TC, sounds like a great deal for the price even if it isnt a good option for capturing R3D and proxies simultaneously. Probably a great inexpensive option for those looking to bypass the RAW workflow (and the inherent media/processing expense) for web or TV delivery.

Does anyone know whether, in the absence of the touchscreen and using hdmi or hd-sdi monitoring+recording without surround view, would the redmote provide all the necessary information to control the camera, allowing hdmi/hdsdi to be used for monitoring and recording without any loss in functionality?

Also, anyone who has used the original shuttle, do you know if monitoring pass through is available not only when recording but also in standby? Looks like the Shuttle 2 says it supports hdmi and hd-sdi output at all times, so it may be able to be used as a converter/splitter as well?
 
Bob Minervini said:
+1
com'on blackmagic

yep +start/stop and TC and I'd by 3 of these
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I agree, and it would certainly be more useful with those features, but this is a TINTY piece of gear. Its a bit larger than a 2.5" SSD drive!

Also its CHEAP.

Also, most SDI video outs have TC embedded ... either generated by the camera or if you input TC into the camera it sends it back out over SDI.

The next time I have call for one, I'm ordering it and the Studio version.

If I really need to use external TC, then I'll just feed them LTC TC.

Oh, and they support the full 16 SDI channels and 8 HDMI channels, so you should run into no problems whatsoever, so long as you have audio upstream from the recorder. On most cameras (including Red One) , which have 4 channels of audio, its a complete non issue. On Epic with just two channels of audio, its a bit more of a bother .. at least until the Pro i/o module comes out.

Again ... all assuming that you are not able to use the TC embedded in the SDI signal.
 
I think this would be really useful for recording from other cameras like a Sony FS100 or even an F3 since DNxHD's data rate far surpasses AVCHD's 28 Mbps and the F3's 35 Mbps. If you're going to use it with one of RED's cameras, I really see no point in using it as a primary recording method since REDCODE far surpasses DNxHD, and arguably, 10-bit uncompressed (I'm referring to the footage directly off the camera). If you wanted to have a backup of your footage in case your REDMAG fails, that could be a possibility, but since it lacks Timecode support, something like a Ki Pro Mini might be a better solution.
 
158MB/s just seems way too big, about 3x the size of the .R3Ds you'd be getting internally. That's like 2hrs/TB.
 
Brian Iannone said:
I think this would be really useful for recording from other cameras like a Sony FS100 or even an F3 since DNxHD's data rate far surpasses AVCHD's 28 Mbps and the F3's 35 Mbps. If you're going to use it with one of RED's cameras, I really see no point in using it as a primary recording method since REDCODE far surpasses DNxHD, and arguably, 10-bit uncompressed (I'm referring to the footage directly off the camera). If you wanted to have a backup of your footage in case your REDMAG fails, that could be a possibility, but since it lacks Timecode support, something like a Ki Pro Mini might be a better solution.
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It would be useful because you could hand off proxies instantly for rough keys/edits. RED Mags can take over half an hour to download to a laptop, and then you want to do a checksum etc to ensure the transfer was perfect.
 
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