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The Truth...

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Jim... i'm kinda in the same shoes ure in right now. well not exactly.. but I kinda feel you guys. I've never run a film festival before... and it's huge... acommodating ~300 films... 100 guests in a month... all under a small army of EFC. we are like 6 people.. doing a lot. answering 300 emails a day per person.
It is new to me. and we keep listening. we keep changing. and improving everyday.

And we at EFC try to achieve miracles by the end of it.

Jim.. i'm psyched. f@#k delays.. f@#$% everything else... all that matters is that by the end of the day we get to hold something that is Beyond a Super Film Camera for fractionsssssssssssssssssssss of the cost. Even if you did not listen to any of the shit that is put out here from people who have assisted in making RED better and better everyday by complaining and making a big f@#king deal of it... at the end of the day... no matter what the sensor does.. it skews.. it has blue channel noise or whatever that can be bitched more about.. will eventually just become obsolete when you really think about the fact that; the fact always remains that every tom dick and harry will have the capability of shooting something that smokes the shit out of film.

When Red #1 came out. Film was obsolete that day. people will bitch about this fact for some time.. but soon.. very soon... their bitching will stop. and they will see any anomaly made by the red sensor... such as skewing... as an aberration that could be avoided. just like chromatic aberration. distortion.. bla bla bla.

SO.. YEAH.. obviously you don't know what you guys did. LOL. I just told you what you did. lols his ass off

You smoked the shit of film. and if you keep at it.. ull be controlling the film industry everywhere around the f$%^ing world.
 
Akube said:
When Red #1 came out. Film was obsolete that day. people will bitch about this fact for some time.
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Dude you have been sucking far to hard off the shisha pipe.
 
Jannard said:
We don't know what we are doing.

That is the truth.

We have never done any of this stuff before. Everything is new to us. Every single thing.

All we ask for is your patience.

Jim
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Don't forget that the camera you've built already ROCKS... Big time! :)

Software is easier to fix than hardware.

I only hope that res. numbers ~4000 would have the camera till Easter'09, or a little earlier.

I have a nice little Easter project, which is literally begging for a RED. :sorcerer:

Keep bringing the future to us...
 
Jim,

You're doing fine. It's a wonderful camera, and it's at the beginning of its young life.

This "push", as you know is the result of a successful execution of your business. If it were not successful, you would not be getting so many requests.

I hope to see you at NAB.

Jay
 
Jannard said:
...We are optimists. If we weren't, we would have NEVER started this undertaking. Realists would have never gotten past square one.
We are attempting the impossible. But we can't do it overnight. We are listening. And changing. And improving. Everyday.

All we ask for is your patience.

Jim
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I think that's precisely why you had and have early supporters/adopters.
Following existing paths would have been so much more easy, but then, we would be exactly where others are.

That's part of the adventure.

Much appreciated, much much more than you think…


Cheers!


Antoine
 
Jannard said:
The fact that we have come this far is a miracle.

Jim
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No Jim, it is called experience.
How long are you in business?
How many ventures have you started so far? :-)

Also there is the other factor, the guys that are successful are not the guys that do things 99.95% right, are the guys that do things 99.995% right.

Andrew
 
Jim,

I did not know you or any of your RED TEAM members personally until joining the Red user forum. After a few months of reading posts from your team I was comfortable enough to order TWO RED Ones.

For the past Four months I have been focused on your product and believe in you and your team based on the following information I gained by writing an article for Broadcast Engineering on High-definition cameras. If you read my post in this forum you will see I took a lot of "stuff" by a few of the RED ushers for some of the terminology I used in the article, (that's fine I'm a big boy).


My question is:
Do you agree with the following posts I've re-listed bellow or am I off base?

1) Wavelet based compression. This is also used by Snell & Wilcox for many of their high-end broadcast device including the Alchemist

2) The largest commercial chip block available at this price point, allowing the use of PL mount glass.

3) A non-linear work flow that eliminates the need for a DI.

4) The use of 4:4:4 as a means to derive super clean Keys.

5) A price point that I can only describe as the equivalent to the introduction of the Sony PD-150.

Jim Correct me if I’m wrong ….

It turns out he started this company called Oakley from the trunk of his car on the beaches of southern California and recently sold it to Ray Ban for over 2.2 Billion.
Ok.. so I think with that type of financing you could put together a dam good team that could pull this off.
The clincher was this guy also owns just about any camera worth having and shoots all the time. He even had "One of a Kind" lens' custom made for his shooting pleasure.
Dave
 
Jim,

I think the problem is you guys did succeed in so many ways you raised the bar so much you raised their expectations. this stuff was all a fantasy in all our minds two years ago. you've done things we all secretly wanted but told ourselves it was just never going to happen or at least if it did happen it would be so pricey we'd never see it.

you know all progress requires a period of feeling around in the dark. there is absolutely no shame in it and everyone will cut you slack because you have been so open about the process. I am blown away by what you've achieved. its moved everyone forward. I'm sure all the others cammys are figuring out ways to copy what you did. you're already ahead of your time.

I think everyone here is grateful for what you guys have done so far. we're hooked. its why we spend all day pressing refresh on this site when we're supposed to be working.
 
My first video DVD project to edit. I kept asking everyone around me about advice. Sound levels, color, video segments, narration and all that stuff. Everyone went along with it and as soon as my 48 minute project was completed and the mass DVD made, it was then that the complaint came rolling in. The same people I asked are you sure this is ok. Wished they would have spoke up right up front.

That is what you have here. People are speaking up and you are listening making the changes. I think this is a good thing and will make the product better and better as time goes on.
 
Jannard said:
We don't know what we are doing.

That is the truth.

We have never done any of this stuff before. Everything is new to us. Every single thing.

We give you dates for delivery based on guesstimates. But we don't know. We haven't done it before. This may explain why we are late on so many things.

We are optimists. If we weren't, we would have NEVER started this undertaking. Realists would have never gotten past square one. By being optimists, we often times think we can do things faster than we really can. Keep in mind that we believe in the dates and timeframes we quote. If we are late, it is not because we tried to trick you... it is because we are revolutionizing an industry and we have never been here before. Did I mention how small an army RED has?

This declaration should cover hardware, software, and every other thing we are doing. Put yourselves in our shoes for just a minute and it will become crystal clear. We just don't know anything for sure. How could we?

The fact that we have come this far is a miracle. No one should have been able to do it. Which is why we were a scam in the beginning. For good reason. What we are doing just isn't possible.

I guess the point is... try to relax on us a bit. We are attempting the impossible. But we can't do it overnight. We are listening. And changing. And improving. Everyday.

All we ask for is your patience.

Jim
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Ballsy approach mate - to attempt (and accomplish) what you have. I really like that kind of drive. Thanks for sticking with the plan when you clearly didn't have to. There must have been times when you were ready to chuck it in. I just hope other businesses are inspired to follow your candid approach to disclosure. It's seeing this kind of behavior that generates optimism in the future of business service.

Thanks again.
 
Hey Jim, there are outliers in almost any large data set, and the chronic complainers are just extraneous data points. There's a HUGE silent majority of customers who are o.k. with changes and delays during the birthing of the company, as long as they convey advancement of the product or the value.

As regards the big picture, I can't think of a single step backward this company has taken. Changes have been absolutely for the better, long term. So for my money, (and what is promised to you is a VERY high percentage of the amount i oun) don't change a thing, in re the way you change things.
 
If everyone at Red has the professionalism and passion that Nate has then everything will be all right. I called him about twenty-five times and changed my order almost as many and he was always a trooper. I echo Sherrick's sentiments about the customer service. Well done Red, and here's to a great 2008! I will not be able to be at NAB, but I sure wish I was!
 
"We don't know what we are doing.
That is the truth."

please say it ain't so ...
i can't handle the truth !!!
i can't sleep !
please tell me it ain't so ..
 
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