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The Red Shooter List

Darren Levine

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This is a list of owner/operators of red cameras in cities around the world. It's purpose is for people to find shooters by the cameras/equipment they use.

-This new list site should solve all the shortcommings/issues of using google docs. by default all contact info is set to private, so no spammers can get a hold of it. We've been working hard on it for quite some time now.

-You can do anything you want with your account, to get into it just use the forgot password system, the email is what you used for the google doc.

-If for any reason you do NOT want to be on this new list/site, you can either delete the account yourself, or just PM me your username and i'll do it for you.

-We made this with the intent to be as useful as possible, if you have comments/suggestions/desires please do let me know.

-If for any reason linking to this new list violates the TOS of REDUSER, please let me know and i will delete the link immediately. The site is not selling anything, it has no cart, or paid services, just affiliate links like everyone else.

To get a password, plug your email into this (your email is your username) http://www.mediahalo.com/recover

Red Scarlet users:
http://www.mediahalo.com/people/browse/videographers/?equipment_video=red-scarlet-x

Red Epic users:
http://www.mediahalo.com/people/browse/videographers/?equipment_video=red-epic-x


-If for any reason you'd still like to access the original google doc list which was helped put together by Richard H:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhCrZmF9HARZdDI5YmJ3WExSNDBISVJfSm9MTl9vQ0E

Enjoy!
 
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I like this idea!
 
Not to throw a blanket on what may be a wonderful idea on one side of the coin - but I am worried about the other side.

This could become a very high risk document / database if it is accessible to criminals. And from first glance - it certainly would be.

Could those assembling this document please tell this community what controls / safeguards are being built in?

Especially since they warn us that "once your info is in, it's unchangeable" -
Before you enter the information, please consider the consequences carefully if your investment is published to the world. We have seen some losses. Need to reduce that risk.
 
Brian F Kobylarz said:
Not to throw a blanket on what may be a wonderful idea on one side of the coin - but I am worried about the other side.

This could become a very high risk document / database if it is accessible to criminals. And from first glance - it certainly would be.

Could those assembling this document please tell this community what controls / safeguards are being built in?

Especially since they warn us that "once your info is in, it's unchangeable" -
Before you enter the information, please consider the consequences carefully if your investment is published to the world. We have seen some losses. Need to reduce that risk.
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im entirely in agreement. the list is locked and unchangeable so that antics of others messing up other people's info/the entire list doesn't happen. the obvious drawback is that once you enter your info you can't change it. but i'm working on a system that will fix that and add a even put a message system in between everyone's email and the public. for the moment though, if anyone is concerned about their email address i would suggest entering [AT] in place of @.

And if anyone would like to suggest anything, by all means. this is meant to be useful, Richard and myself will do everything possible to make it so, everything except unlocking it ;)
 
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Brian F Kobylarz said:
Not to throw a blanket on what may be a wonderful idea on one side of the coin - but I am worried about the other side.

This could become a very high risk document / database if it is accessible to criminals. And from first glance - it certainly would be.

Could those assembling this document please tell this community what controls / safeguards are being built in?

Especially since they warn us that "once your info is in, it's unchangeable" -
Before you enter the information, please consider the consequences carefully if your investment is published to the world. We have seen some losses. Need to reduce that risk.
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Safety is a huge concern of mine as well which is why not all information is required. You can put in as little info or as much as you'd like. An alias for your name or an email address created solely for rental purposes is fine. If you'd like to change your info and it's already in there, let me know and I can change it. Hopefully it won't be any more dangerous then the Scarlet Camera Names List or the NY Rental Owners Group which has your full name and your gear listed.

The purpose of this list is to make it easier to access the RED community. It's for last minute rentals, assembling unofficial meetings, and finding what is where.

Requiring to register and login to access the list could possibly help with safety concerns, but if you have any other ideas, please let us know!
 
I would say that a registration system requiring verified names to start.
Log-in password - yes.
System set up to PM only by those that have verified identities (much like RedUser)

Might be wise to publish a set of guidelines to help people secure their identity and prevent loss right up front. Including your idea of an alias for the "publicly viewable document" is a good start. Ditto on the dedicated email - I use that technique just for client projects (far more efficient)

Top of the list should start with the geographic area based out of - no specific addresses listed for security concerns. RED equipment is everywhere around the globe - perhaps some drop downs starting with the continents and then narrowing it down to regions... That's a lot of work, but it will pay off in the long run.

Follow that up with: are they a rental house, production company, owner-operator, etc... You should know what type of entity you are starting a discussion with.

Recommendation: Pick a time frame to receive suggestions from the community as to enhancing the list. Give it maybe 2 weeks - maybe less or more - but hold up publishing just long enough to launch a product that will feel good to both you and the users. I'm sure you can get a hundred suggestions in the first week alone... Doesn't mean you need to incorporate all of them!
You already know that the types of support equipment will grow - Production tools will become a monster of it's own.


Great idea guys.
Tweak it a bit and I think you will have a winner for everyone.

Cheers!
 
Good points all, and believe me, it's being worked on ;)

theres even a beta of the eventual system in which i used the af100 shooter list as a test driver, and it does basically all of what you mentioned, but we're making a new system from scratch taking in all input thus far. this red list is a chance to have everyone's info ready to go so when we do switch to the new system, all everyone has to do is just retrieve their password from the system and change their info at will.

if i were to give a timeframe for the switch, i'd say 2 weeks at the soonest, 4 weeks at the latest. i'm very excited about it, as it should be of good use to all of us, but im also being very conservative and careful about how it's used. i despise spammers, scammers, and scum just as much as the next person, and that will be a big part of the eventual system.

for now, i think the main security concern is the unauthorized use of people's contact info, hence why phone numbers are not able to be inputted, and as i mentioned to [AT] email addresses. it's not perfect, but everyone can make their own choices for that, and names vs aliass', etc.. and we'll make the move toward internal messaging and verified names ones everything is up and awesome.

also, we could definitely use some beta testers, so if anyone is interested in that, do PM me.
 
That sounds like the most idiotic thing I have ever heard, You might as well just ask people to give you their camera systems, cause that's what your doing.... If you want a list of most of the RED shooters, look at the home page of REDUSER, scroll to the bottom and BAM, there it is. Even if your not trying to jack peoples gear, others are, somewhere out there, and your asking us to make it easier for them. The whole reason for REDuser is to do what you are proposing, but you want another one.... Are you going to call it REDuser 2, or the sequel?
 
Jon Jones said:
That sounds like the most idiotic thing I have ever heard, You might as well just ask people to give you their camera systems, cause that's what your doing.... If you want a list of most of the RED shooters, look at the home page of REDUSER, scroll to the bottom and BAM, there it is. Even if your not trying to jack peoples gear, others are, somewhere out there, and your asking us to make it easier for them. The whole reason for REDuser is to do what you are proposing, but you want another one.... Are you going to call it REDuser 2, or the sequel?
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Hey Jon, this is JUSTIN Harrison posting this at the moment. http://www.reduser.net/forum/member.php?20706-Justin-Harrison If you want to pull post rank check it out, 321 posts seems to beat your 299 and a member since April 2009. That account got blocked for a big misunderstanding over the Scarlet Order List & I have yet to get a hold of Jarred to get it sorted.

If you dont want to support it, then no need to post at all. If you're going to be paranoid, then why include the equipment list in your signature along with your location and full name on this public forum in the first place?

We're trying to make an easily searchable database for users while keeping it just as safe as the forums. If you have any constructive ideas, let me know...
 
So Richard isn't your real name, even though real names are required, and your other account got "blocked" or banned, and you still want us to give you all of our info for a REDuser 2? What kind of perks are you offering over there at RU2? Cause you know I don't think I'm getting enough out of RU1, I was kinda hoping for coupons and something like spending points, similar to frequent flyer miles, cause if you are going to do those, I might just switch?

Richard Harrison said:
Hey Jon, this is JUSTIN Harrison posting this at the moment. http://www.reduser.net/forum/member.php?20706-Justin-Harrison If you want to pull post rank check it out, 321 posts seems to beat your 299 and a member since April 2009. That account got blocked for a big misunderstanding over the Scarlet Order List & I have yet to get a hold of Jarred to get it sorted.

If you dont want to support it, then no need to post at all. If you're going to be paranoid, then why include the equipment list in your signature along with your location and full name on this public forum in the first place?

We're trying to make an easily searchable database for users while keeping it just as safe as the forums. If you have any constructive ideas, let me know...
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Hey man, it was a joke, I'm obviously poking you, asking for frequent flyer points, lol. I'm sure your list is fine, there are all kinds of lists all over the internet detailing services and such, and I'm sure their harmless just like yours.
 
I'll be randomly picking a winner from the list for a free copy of REDCINE every 100 people that sign-up
 
You have to admit, the RU2 comment was hilarious! I almost peed!

Jon Jones said:
Hey man, it was a joke, I'm obviously poking you, asking for frequent flyer points, lol. I'm sure your list is fine, there are all kinds of lists all over the internet detailing services and such, and I'm sure their harmless just like yours.
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update/question...

so my ruskie programmer is coding like mad to make a nice organized browsing system where all your little details can be searched and kept secure at the same time. no it's not another forum, more like a network, specifically for finding camera/crew people based on thier location and equipment. looking to have it working the beginning of next month and from there we'll take comments/suggestions/etc..., the idea is for it to be useful to everyone, so chipping in your 2 or 3 cents will only make it better.

question: is it bad manners to post a dupe of this thread over in the epic section? if so please suggest what is more proper, i'd like everyone who wants to be on the list to do so before we switch to the new system so we can easily import all info seamlessly. it'll have security, user control, showreels for ya, the works. it's something i've been tinkering with for a long time.

cheers,
 
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