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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo...

Tom Lowe said:
It's my understanding that a 4K DCP is exactly the same size a 2K DCP, because they have a locked maximum bitrate. Is that correct?
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Important point. The spec I think things are built on is at : http://www.dcimovies.com/DCIDigitalCinemaSystemSpecv1_2.pdf and on page 41 states the maximum rate for both 2k and 4k(so i think your right).

It's written a bit tricky:


• A 4K distribution shall have a maximum of 1,302,083 bytes per frame (aggregate of all
three color components including headers). Additionally, the 2K portion of each frame
shall satisfy the 24 FPS 2K distribution requirements as stated above.
Note: For information purposes only, this yields a maximum of 250 Mbits/sec total and a
maximum of 200 Mbits/sec for the 2K portion of each color component
 
Steven Caesare said:
I'm very interested in this as well. I'm near the 4K Tyson's AMC that's been mentioned earlier in this thread, but I don't know if they are equipped to show 4K source files, or simply scale up the 2K DCPs....

For that matter, has it been conformed that this movie is being DISTRIBUTED in 4K DCP's?

-sc
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So, to answer this for myself (and anybody else playing along), I called the AMC in Tyson's VA to ask about the source format for TGWTDT, but the ManagerialDroid I spoke to refused to release "any technical info". So I submitted an email on AMC's website.

This evening I got a call back from the engineer who works at the same AMC theater. Nice guy, and pleased to talk to somebody who was interested in the details. While I was on the phone with him he went over and looked at the DCP files for TGWTDT and verified it was indeed a 4K DCP source.

It has been showing in their "ETX" auditorium, which is their top-of-the-line setup featuring dual Sony SRX-320 4k projectors (stacked for additional brightness) and something like 14 channel surround sound. So it was a true 4K exhibition.

Unfortunately, as of now, they've moved the screening of that movie to a smaller auditorium with only a 2K projector.

He did say they are planning on upgrading the entire theatre to 4k in the near future, and they are seeing the trend move that direction with source material. He seemed to recall that several Sony distributed movies have been 4K DCP's already, although he couldn't speak to if they had been 4K through the entire pipeline, as we know TGWTDT was as per Cioni's blog.

-Steve
 
Best movie I've seen in a long time! Totally loved Elizabeth's character development and amazing acting! Saw it on a crapy film print but it still looked great :)
 
Adam Johnson said:
Best movie I've seen in a long time! Totally loved Elizabeth's character development and amazing acting!
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I agree, my favorite movie of the year. Even though I saw it on 2k ... it felt almost high resolution ... DI work was amazing. Makes me really think a lot of doing DI in 4k, even though most things are shown in 2k ... it's that much better.
 
Just watched this, and i must say i'm impressed. :) In the right hands, Reds can produce stunning images.
 
Michael Cioni: This question is for you if you don't mind. Just out of curiosity, what were all the 'stabilizations' that were done with A.E. for GWTDT? Were they bumpy jib/crane shots that were made to be extra smooth and other such things? Can you please comment on that? I just was wondering because I noticed most of the tracking shots of all sorts in the film were exceedingly smooth, almost TOO smooth looking very digital and perfect (in a good way).
 
With kids and wife comfortably settled in watching the Muppets today, I strolled into Girl with Dragon Tattoo to catch the beginning of the movie and compare which looked better (both shot on Red, but GWDT finished at 4K). The trailers and opening sequence seemed sharp on GWDT, but then the first 10 minutes of the movie looked soft in comparison... I do think the movie theater was to blame, because I have also seen them project 2D movies with 3D projectors looking lowsy, but still it was a letdown...

So, I strolled back in to join the kids and finished the Muppets which looking far better at the cineplex and restored my faith in Red footage.

I've had bad experiences at theaters lately, last one at same theater was with Tree of Life (2D movie) being projected with 3D projector looking horribly dim/out of focus/soft (walked out for refund)...
 
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I saw The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo at the Arclight Hollywood Theater Room 10 in 4K. Michael Cioni tipped me that the upper level theater at the Arclight is indeed screening the movie with the 4k DCP.
On this massive screen, I definitely experienced the power of 4k projection. Man, the image was GORGEOUS. It was great to finally have a chance to see an entire feature film in 4k.
All red fans owe it to themselves to watch this film in 4k. I went to the Sony website 4k projector locator, but what it fails to point out (as other have already mentioned on this thread) is whether or not the DCP is 2k or 4k.
Based on Michael Cioni's tip and having watched it, I definitely stamp this particular theater as 4k DCP verified hehe.
I noticed that some have seen the movie and stated that it was soft..etc...my guess is that they must have watched a film print and/or the projector was not calibrated because the 4k projection I saw was sharp throughout the entire film.

I would personally rather see an entire film in 4k rather than IMAX films where only like 25% of the film gets the fidelity boost.
I saw Ghost Protocol in IMAX and while the IMAX portions were sharp, the rest of the film looked oddly soft at times.

Hats off to David Fincher, Jeff, the whole Red Team and of course Light Iron camp. The movie was emotionally captivating and visually STUNNING.
 
Saw it over the weekend. Loved it, digital cinema never looked so good!
 
Tonaci saw it where I saw it and it was gorgeous. Every Red shooter should see this at 4k.
 
I went to see it in 4K last night, and even though it looked fantastically sharp at times (which there were many of) I often felt that the work of the focuspuller, uncsharp lenses (or at unsharp stops) and the very dark scenes often will take the glory away from the 4K potential. Nothing that ruins the movie experience at all, but something that needs to be taken into concideration.
 
I am wondering : what DCP server support 4K SDi output ?
The dolby i believe can output only 2K ....

maybe this is the reason why many theater that have 4K projectors , but they have 2K version of the Girl Wit The Dragon Tatoo

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I posted this in another thread but maybe here I can get an answer...Can someone say what was Red One MX and Epic? I'm specially curious about 2 particular scenes:

SMALL SPOILER

The bar Lesbian kiss scene

The Train station with the amazing DR- was there any post effect in this shot, like key, etc? This shot in particular looked stunning.

How were the On- Board bike shots , er, shot? Bare bones Epic in a Mount?

Hope someone in the know shimes in!
 
Gabriele Turchi said:
I am wondering : what DCP server support 4K SDi output ?
The dolby i believe can output only 2K ....

maybe this is the reason why many theater that have 4K projectors , but they have 2K version of the Girl Wit The Dragon Tatoo

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There are a bunch of DCP servers that output 4K... but the trick is finding ones that are DCI-Compliant which are few and far between. The Doremi Showvault/IMB cinema server is one that does.
 
Tonaci Tran said:
I saw The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo at the Arclight Hollywood Theater Room 10 in 4K. Michael Cioni tipped me that the upper level theater at the Arclight is indeed screening the movie with the 4k DCP..
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Thanks for the tip, I've been putting off seeing it until I could find a verified 4K showing.
 
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