The Doughnut Dilemma

[BrendanLeahy]

Hey all,

I was wondering if someone might be able to help me match grading on these two shots. For the life of me, I can't seem to get the close shot of these doughnuts to match the wide, even though they have the same settings:





The reason why I'm trying to get the closer shot to match the wide is because:

1.) the green is pretty gross

2.) All of the other shots in this sequence turned out exactly like the wide color-wise EXCEPT this near shot

4000K, ISO 1000, DC2 RG4, Dragon 6K.

Here are the R3Ds + TIF files: https://we.tl/t-RlAYVXOKt9

 

[Les Hillis]

Is the ufile link correct, it just takes me to a J006_C046_03205G_S000.0000892.jpg image, not a TIFF or R3D file?

 

[BrendanLeahy]

Is the ufile link correct, it just takes me to a J006_C046_03205G_S000.0000892.jpg image, not a TIFF or R3D file?

Sorry about that! Updated with a WeTransfer link

 

[Aaron Lochert]

It's just a matter of white balance between the two clips. Available light in retail shops always have this problem as different fixtures/bulbs are replaced at different times and the consistency for color balance is all over the map:

The Wide, DragonColor2 - no changes from your settings:

The Closeup, DragonColor2 - 4400K, -20:

But, I must ask. Are you sure you really want to match to the wide? I'm going to take a guess that this isn't from a film with a defined look for story reasons and actually a commercial for this doughnut shop? If so, I think there's a lot more you can do to make it more appealing to a customer. For one, the white balance is still a ways off and still has plenty of green, which doesn't quite make me want to bite into a tasty pastry, personally. I also recommend switching over to an IPP2 workflow, as it manages some subtle hues in a better, more pleasing way. That combined with better WB gives this:

The Wide, IPP2 High Contrast/Very Soft Roll-Off, 800 ISO, 4400K, -22, and some saturation:

The Closeup, IPP2 High Contrast/Very Soft Roll-Off, 500 ISO, Lifted Black point to match wide's lower contrast, 4600K, -35, and some saturation:

 

[BrendanLeahy]

PM'ed you, and thank you Aaron! It's for a little doc project, so I don't need to make it super appealing, but you made a really good point, so I've revised the edit a bit.

 

[Marc Wielage]

The second version Aaron shows look perfectly appetizing to me.

In food commercials, very specific keys and tracking masks are often used to confine saturation and a specific look to isolated parts of the frame. And if there's contamination in terms of white balance, we can specifically attack that with targeted corrections, like pulling saturation out of the whites or reducing specific shades of yellow/blue with secondaries. You generally can't get pure white backgrounds in mixed lighting conditions, but it's possible to get close enough that will work for occasional moments.

 

[Aaron Lochert]

PM'ed you, and thank you Aaron! It's for a little doc project, so I don't need to make it super appealing, but you made a really good point, so I've revised the edit a bit.

Right on. I'll check my inbox now.

The second version Aaron shows look perfectly appetizing to me.

Thanks, Marc! And congrats on post number 6000!

 

[David Peterson]

From the thread title I was fully expecting this thread to be on the topic of matteboxes!