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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

The CF module...

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I worked with digital HighSpeed Cams (CMOS 1536x1024), they first store the RAW-frames on a RAM, then you store them on your Comp. With this system you can store from 1000 full size frames to 4000 windowed frames on the RAM (just a few seconds but thats enough with this speed) With this system, you just need some GB of RAM and a Labtop.
 
znelson said:
But you'll need to have a beefy system and network to handle 320M+/second.......Also, I believe you can only record to one device at a time. I'd assume that includes the RedPort.
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More like 1 GB/s at the top setting. You'll need a special recorder for that.

Yes to record to one device, I could see how you could record out of the RAW port at the same time though (this is not a promise for such a feature! Just a personal observation), just like you can with HD-SDI. The current limitation is more on the REDCODE flowing to your magazine / drive.

Everything subject to change, of course...
 
Not really. RAW port stuff is still under development. If any other RED team members have more insights they'll let you know....
 
The conclusion for that: We will have to deal with 30 to 60 frames until there is an update in form of firmware-update or faster storage solutions or... Make no sense to buy a RAWport at the moment. Ok, just good to know.
 
Since there's only one CF slot, that means you'll have to reload every few minutes. Obviously, that's not a huge issue as it's similar to film, but with many of us used to P2 cards on HVX's and having the opportunity for the footage to roll over onto a second card while we unload the first, this could be somewhat of a compromise. Could the RED team enlighten us as to how fast and convenient shooting with the CF's are, being that they're only about 4 minutes of recording time at the moment? I'm not doubting Jim at all, but I'm just curious as to the convenience.

i always kind of knew that shooting to a small Solid State card was going to be the best option, but without having a second slot for footage to roll over in, I didn't know how efficient it would be. But clearly I haven't messed with it yet. Just looking for some experienced advice.
 
Stuart English said:
Not in the initial release of the camera Darwin. The capability of the camera will evolve over time via software updates.

What kind of pre-record times are you looking for BTW?
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Thank you very much for your response. :-)
 
Hi Zakaree,

Congrats on the new job!! (I have inside Red envy)

Are you saying you're going to pass on the the Red drive?

Zakaree said:
all of us really dig the cf option.. i for one will be utilizing this as my main medium. especially since the gigs will go up and the price will eventually go down on flash in general
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I love both the CF and the RED DRIVE... since CF can't hold 300+ gig yet...

can't see not having them both and I'm sure the RED DRIVE is coming out quickly, if not for the first couple batches of cameras...
 
You'd want to go with the 8gig card instead of the 4gig... and that will give you over 4 minutes at 27 MB/sec REDCODE RAW...
 
rgdfilmsRED said:
Hahaha..

I was watching the 2k pro-res footage earlier on my macbook.. after watching it, i jumped back to this hvx-200 project i've been working.. wow, it looked so soft, bland and foul compared to what I just watched... it's such a poor excuse for HD.. weird, because after I got my HVX, I thought the picture was so clear and crisp. I lied to myself and said this was the new revolution, a mini-varicam..

i heart red
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LOL, yes I know what you mean. I don't want to show any
customers any RED footage until I get mine. I am doing a
Green Screen composite I shot with the HVX last week.
As long as I can run it through AE to de-noise it and
sharpen it up - it is almost acceptable.
 
Are there plans to make a version of the battery mount without the hard drive cage? So when using CF cards or other on-board media the total size could be reduced a bit more?
 
macgregor said:
OK, but the questions is data rate. How much footage of redcode raw can enter in a 4GB card?
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4GB = 4096MB
4K REDCODE RAW @ 24fps = 27MBs per second(approx.)
4096 devided by 27 devided by 60 = 2.5

Two minutes and 30 seconds(approx.)

4GB = 4096MB
2K REDCODE RAW @ 24fps = 7MBs per second(approx.)
4096 devided by 7 devided by 60 = 9.7

Nine minutes and forty two seconds(approx)

32GB cards will hold twenty minutes of 4K and seventy seven minutes and thirty six seconds of 2K. Both at 24fps, REDCODE RAW.

But are compression ratios still variable?
 
I have a suggestion to the Red Team re: the RAW port option - why not add the slot and circuitry for the CF port into the RAW port itself if you can fit it in, since the only other option for people who order the RAW port is to actually remove it to fit a CF port which I understand is factory fitted and removed.

I'm not in the market for the RAW port myself but I'm sure those who are would appreciate such a feature, especially given the RAW port is an additional US$6,500.
 
AFAIK, the FLASH module attaches to the camera via SATA. So if someone loses the side-mount SATA interface by installing the RAW port, would it be possible to attach the FLASH module to the other SATA connector -- where we attach RED DRIVES? Perhaps some form of adapter/mounting sled could facilitate this, or even a FLASH module that can be mounted like a RED DRIVE?
 
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