The CF module...

[Kevin Halverson]

Are there plans to make a version of the battery mount without the hard drive cage? So when using CF cards or other on-board media the total size could be reduced a bit more?

Great question, I was wondering the same thing.

 

[Nik Manning]

no way man.. this would be a bad marketing move.. what do you think jj is?.. one of the reasons for the red success is that magical $17,500.. it works like a trade mark.. brand's value my friend..

I think only if they raise the body price over $19,999 would it lose the same associated value. It just has to be said it is priced under 20k to really amaze.

 

[donatello b]

IMO - if RED was 25K at NAB 2006 it would still be magical .... what else are you going to buy that has 35mm sensor & 4k ??

 

[Nik Manning]

IMO - if RED was 25K at NAB 2006 it would still be magical .... what else are you going to buy that has 35mm sensor & 4k ??

Never said it still wouldn't be magical.

 

[Alexis Hanawalt]

Seems worth mentioning that the CF option isn't all that "magical" for those of us intending to shoot documentary subjects - except that I guess it's good to just have something on the camera to record to at all times.

 

[Michael Lindsay]

....CF option isn't all that "magical" for those of us intending to shoot documentary subjects

Does anyone know if the CF option is 1,2 or more slots... Can't rember if this is answered. Maybe they will do a Mrk 11 CF option later..

Doco work with 2 slot 16gb (or 32gb next year) sounds Omagical to me.. Especially as you may work with S16 crop data rates (Don't know any other high quality format with that kind of running time)

regards

Michael

 

[Zack Birlew]

I have a suggestion to the Red Team re: the RAW port option - why not add the slot and circuitry for the CF port into the RAW port itself if you can fit it in, since the only other option for people who order the RAW port is to actually remove it to fit a CF port which I understand is factory fitted and removed.

I'm not in the market for the RAW port myself but I'm sure those who are would appreciate such a feature, especially given the RAW port is an additional US$6,500.

That would be great!:w00t:

<---- Needs RAW Port, thus can't get Flash :sad:

 

[Zakaree Sandberg]

Hi Zakaree,

Congrats on the new job!! (I have inside Red envy)

Are you saying you're going to pass on the the Red drive?

let me just first say this.. "im not a red sales man" so dont think im trying to upsell.. but no.. i will be getting one if not 2 red drives as well.. most likely, i will start with one drive and see how the flash world starts to move.. red drive is a great option for documentary and other "long take" situations.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

CF is the way to go.
All major DSLRs from Canon, Nikon, Leica, Sony, Fuji, Sigma etc...
are using CF cards. Also VIPER'S Grass Valley™ Venom FlashPak
a card module is based on CF. Arri D20 is using that dock-able module too.
To repeat again: that's the way to go.

CF card module.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=72649&postcount=19

 

[number6]

I'm not in the market for the RAW port myself but I'm sure those who are would appreciate such a feature, especially given the RAW port is an additional US$6,500.

Which begs the question, "Who NEEDS Raw?" I mean, seriously, who in the market will be using it? Will it be major studios? If Redcode Raw is good enough for the movies being shot at present, who would have need for more data than a feature motion picture maker? Not trying to be a SA, just trying to FO TSMOC.

 

[Curran Giddens]

"Who NEEDS the uncompressed RAW port?" More like "Who needs 4k @ 60fps or 2k @ 120fps?" I would only use the RAW port for the highest framerate the camera is capable of. Then I would compress the footage to Redcode RGB soon after recording to make it easier to deal with in post.

BTW, what does this mean?

"Not trying to be a SA, just trying to FO TSMOC."

 

[number6]

"Who NEEDS the uncompressed RAW port?" More like "Who needs 4k @ 60fps or 2k @ 120fps?" I would only use the RAW port for the highest framerate the camera is capable of. Then I would compress the footage to Redcode RGB soon after recording to make it easier to deal with in post.

BTW, what does this mean?

"Not trying to be a SA, just trying to FO TSMOC."

O.K., I can see where the 60 fps would come in handy... but if the camera could be persuaded to deliver the same thing in Redcode Raw, would you still feel the need when the Redcode delivers visually lossless compression?

SA (smart ass) FO TSMOC (find out To Satisfy My Oun Curiousity... probably a little bit too much shorthand, will refrain in future.)

 

[Rob Lohman]

Does anyone know if the CF option is 1,2 or more slots... Can't rember if this is answered.

One CF slot...

 

[Joel Kaye]

wow, it looked so soft, bland and foul compared to what I just watched... it's such a poor excuse for HD.. weird, because after I got my HVX, I thought the picture was so clear and crisp. I lied to myself and said this was the new revolution, a mini-varicam..

i heart red

A lot of people got mad at me when I came to that conclusion after purchasing one the first HVX's and then doing my own tests vs. other stuff out there. People just didn't want to believe it... some still don't. IMHO they were kool-aid drinkers.

NOW other people I know are accusing me of being a RED Kool-Aid drinker. I've seen that footage up close and personal and I know what I know. RED is the real deal. I just hope it works without too many hiccups.

 

[Curran Giddens]

O.K., I can see where the 60 fps would come in handy... but if the camera could be persuaded to deliver the same thing in Redcode Raw, would you still feel the need when the Redcode delivers visually lossless compression?

Nope. I wouldn't need the RAW port if I could get the maximum framerates in Redcode RAW onboard. Luckily the camera is modular. RED could just replace the processor that does the Redcode RAW compression with a new one that is capable of processing the higher framerates. One of my favorite features of the RED ONE.

 

[number6]

Nope. I wouldn't need the RAW port if I could get the maximum framerates in Redcode RAW onboard. Luckily the camera is modular. RED could just replace the processor that does the Redcode RAW compression with a new one that is capable of processing the higher framerates. One of my favorite features of the RED ONE.

Totally agree... I expect to be using the same cameras 10, 20 years from now. But probably with an entirely new set of guts.

 

[Joe Aurili]

Totally agree... I expect to be using the same cameras 10, 20 years from now. But probably with an entirely new set of guts.

I think I would pay a little extra for a new shell, to avoid 20 years of scratches and dings

 

[Greg Voevodsky]

Any chance of adding more than one CF slot module on the side - 2 slots like the new Nikon D300 would be awesome. 4 Slots even better in a modular form that you just yank out the whole 4 pack or 2 two packs (since there are 2 pack readers) and put another one or 2 back in?

And if you could record a backup at the same time two the 2nd card like Nikon if you want, that would be really cool.

Could the RED RAM get modified into a 4 slot CF Holder?

 

[number6]

I think I would pay a little extra for a new shell, to avoid 20 years of scratches and dings

No! No! Each scratch or ding would be a memory! Years from now when the first cameras are sent to the Smithsonian, the director or otherwise shooter, could be invited to tell visiting schoolkids that "this scratch was from so and so movie" and "this ding occurred when (blank) prima donna threw a prop at the camera because it revealed a wrinkle" (heh heh).

 

[Obin Olson]

This isn't fair... I DEMAND to pay proprietary P2 prices, and then have the option to record lack-luster HD-like footage to them!!!

Panasonic has trained me well...

Thank you Jim. I feel the same way! LOL I love the "HD like" bit....!!!