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The best $5,750 you can spend [updated]

Jannard said:
Great question... RED Rocket™™™™ does exactly the same thing to REDCINE-X data as no RED Rocket™™™™... just way faster. M-X does the exact same thing as M except with way less noise (and if you can find noise, it looks much better). This gives you a ton more options... both in low light shooting and pulling up detail at ISO 320-500. You may never need the difference... but I can tell you that, like RED Rocket™™™™, once you have shot with M-X... there is no going back. Good news is that there is no requirement to upgrade. The M sensor does a great job. Having the M-X upgrade available to our customers for a reasonable price only seems fair.

Jim
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Jim, I'm having a real hard time deciding what the future is for my R1 (you've not made it easy frankly!)

Could you help a guy (sn:1912) out, and maybe a thousand others and attempt a response to any of the following questions, please, because I feel I'm being bombarded with incomplete information here regarding any options I may or may not have.

We have great upgrade option in Epic-X, but every client (or DP anyway) I know wants more DR. If Monstro delivers that, thats what they'll want. Thats what they tell me. I personally agree, DR before resolution.

So, upgrade your sensor for $5000 approx to MX, or upgrade your camera to an amazing Epic-X with an amazing bundle. If I do the later, matching R1 resolution and frame rates, in a camera with a Monstro sensor, will now cost $33k in the form of a Epic FF35 new brain. A modular system hasn't made upgrading easier for me so far.

I'm not complaining, but it seems reasonable to me that future sensor upgrades shouldn't necessarily require greater CPU power if resolution stays the same, so why not make all brains capable of processing 16bit sensor, and make the sensors in the brains upgradeable without the cost of a new brain and chips? Its a greener solution, and only higher redcode rates would need a new brain.. I know, we a should be talking about MX..

In the meanwhile..please answer this single question which I've helpfully broken down into sub-questions :)


1a) Is the R1 still slated to get a Monstro upgrade option?

assuming yes..

1b) Would this be for release around the time the Monstro Scarlet cameras are released?

still assuming yes..

1c ) Will the higher bitdepth of a Monstro sensor translate to higher bitdepth flavour of redcode?

1c [ii]) Is it likely a R1 could output a higher bitdepth redcode anyway?

1d) Could you clarify whether the MX sensor is 15bit (upgrades post), or 12bit (as in original Epic release).

Thanks ;)
 
I dont recall R1 to have EVER been on the schedule for a Monstro chip, and I've been paying attention. Perhaps you have a link to a previous post or announcement?
 
Brian Timmons said:
This was from the Monstro thread in 2008.
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I remember that as well. While I would love to be able to put the Monstro sensor in my Red One at some point, with the new direction that Red is headed (smaller modularity) I doubt that this will still be the case. And by the time that sensor comes out, I highly doubt that they will still even be supporting the Red One- I mean we are talking about a chip that does not even exist.
 
Ryan E. Walters said:
I remember that as well. While I would love to be able to put the Monstro sensor in my Red One at some point, with the new direction that Red is headed (smaller modularity) I doubt that this will still be the case. And by the time that sensor comes out, I highly doubt that they will still even be supporting the Red One- I mean we are talking about a chip that does not even exist.
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Could someone from RED please comment on this quote as to what the future plans for the Red1 M-X'd camera might be, for framerates, redcode, and sensor technology?

Thanks kindly in advance

EDIT: okay, in hindsight this question is kinda ridiculous huh? I'm asking you to tell me the future plans for the company.

Sooo, simpler question: will the R1 continue to be upgradeable after M-X sensor install?
 
Brook Willard said:
Jim just said last week that there would be a Monstro path for the RED ONE.
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Misunderstood... you can NOT physically upgrade a RED ONE to Monstro. There is an upgrade path (as in trade-in).

As of now, the only Monstro sensors announced are FF35, 645 and 617.

Jim
 
If we upgrade to EPIC-X Stage 2 and keep our REDONE, and the REDONE camera is executed, does that mean I cannot use an "upgrade path (trade in)" on the REDONE to get a Monstro Sensor Epic camera? If this is true, and say I pass up on the EPIC-X "bundle" (either stage 2 or 3), will there be a similar bundle down the road for an EPIC MONSTRO sensor camera (be it FF35, 645, or 617) with added modules? Or would it be more of a stage 3 scenario?
 
I do not think so. There is a timeline to upgrade. If you do not execute the upgrade within the time allotted for such stage, no matter what stage you selected, you just forfeited your ability to use the R1 for any upgrade.
 
Mike Jacks said:
If we upgrade to EPIC-X Stage 2 and keep our REDONE, and the REDONE camera is executed, does that mean I cannot use an "upgrade path (trade in)" on the REDONE to get a Monstro Sensor Epic camera? If this is true, and say I pass up on the EPIC-X "bundle" (either stage 2 or 3), will there be a similar bundle down the road for an EPIC MONSTRO sensor camera (be it FF35, 645, or 617) with added modules? Or would it be more of a stage 3 scenario?
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Most people are making money with their cameras... time is a big factor.

Jim
 
Does anybody know the status of the M-X upgrades?

Are they still happening?

David
 
CJ Roy said:
I think that's the point of having the different brains, or sensor blocks. You only replace that, not the rest of the body or modules.
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Correct. Upgrade buy buying a new brain with dedicated sensor and electronics package instead of buying a new camera. That way you keep or sell your other one. You'll have two instead of one this way...

Jim
 
What number are we up to???? I'm really getting nervous!

Stephen
 
guys... i'm pretty lost about a MX upgrade and rocket pack...
is it still available? for how much?
cheers,
 
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