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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

temperature problem under +3° C

Stuart English said:
Just a Philips screwdriver - its less than a minute to install or remove them.
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A phillips and an allen, if I'm not mistaken. Gotta open those little doors before the strips can be accessed.

One of the Ninjas' cameras experienced the "blue bar" issue when it was left in a cold camera truck overnight. The solution on that particular shoot was to keep the camera in a hotel room.

I've only been with the camera in 20 degree cold a few times... and only for a few hours at a time. It seems like the issue will only appear when the camera's been cooled to its core.
 
Brook Willard said:
A phillips and an allen, if I'm not mistaken. Gotta open those little doors before the strips can be accessed.

One of the Ninjas' cameras experienced the "blue bar" issue when it was left in a cold camera truck overnight. The solution on that particular shoot was to keep the camera in a hotel room.
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Thanks Stuart and Brook, sounds like a nice quick changeover.

p.s. Brook, you ninjas live on the edge! ;-) It should be in the room anyway... I've always been paranoid about theft in hotel parking lots overnight, can't sleep if it's not in mine or the AC's room!
 
Well, us Canadians don't like the sound of this. 6 months of the year it is pretty cold up here, and I really hope I don't have to tell my clients sorry, no outdoor shots in the winter with my RED. i am sure someone will come up with something to solve this problem.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong- so far, the reported problems in cold conditions have been in cases where the internal cooling fan is on?

My understanding is the Red uses about 60-80 watts (?) For a smallish camera, that is some significant power (= heat). If you turn off the internal cooling fan, and possibly wrap a towel or similar around it, I'd imagine it would keep itself warm enough in any conditions that you'd want to be out in yourself.
 
Dominic Cochran said:
Right, turn off the fan and use the winter strips
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Ya so that will work for -3 to -5. But things can get to -30 to -40 quite easy on some days. Better answers are needed.
 
Finner said:
Ya so that will work for -3 to -5. But things can get to -30 to -40 quite easy on some days. Better answers are needed.
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On those -30 to -40 days I would imagine you would tend to wear a little extra protection compared to the -3 to -5 days. Your camera should do the same, no matter which one you're using.

Definitely agree that some harsh testing would be nice though, we're in Michigan!
 
i haven't read the whole thread, but my recommendation would be to keep the camera on always, as it creates a lot of it's own heat.
 
Emanuel,

Before making any hasty conclusion, could you first verify whether the batteries were in cold or not? This is critical, for the li-batteries quickly loose their ability to feed power when their temperature get below 0C. Perhaps the voltage of the batteries is still high enough, but there's not enough current available and this generates the observed problem.

Second, thinking of modern electronics, there should be no reason to be too concerned at this point. Say, you may well have your mobile phone in cold and it still works. Video and still cameras typically run well in cold, and RED should be even better for there is no moving parts.

Of course, it is possible there is some temperature critical component such as a electrolytic capacitor within RED which causes a problem not detected before. But, even in such case, this should be a rather easy problem to solve.
 
kosmos3d said:
i haven't read the whole thread, but my recommendation would be to keep the camera on always, as it creates a lot of it's own heat.
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He did turn on his camera after being outside for half an hour. But that is sometimes necessary though. If you are going to shoot back country snowboarding, you would probably have to turn your camera off from time to time.

I guess Kata or similar will produce something like this for the RED:
http://www.kata-bags.com/Item.asp?pid=26&cid=9&perentId=1&ProdLine=1

A glove like this is supposed to let heat through, but I guess it insulates somewhat anyways.
 
Sorry Lauri,

I´m an AC and DIT for over 12 years, please believe me, I know the voltage of the battery was OK!
I used LI Elite Batt´s fully charged; I worked with this type of battery on about 100 HD shoots in the cold, in the real cold, colder, much colder than
-3!

It was definitely not a power prob!

Cheers,
Emanuel
 
But OK,
I will test it with an AC Adaptor and a Genny tomorrow!
Who knows!
TEST_TEST_TEST and TEST!
I will let you guys all know!
In exchange, let me know about your tests guys!

Cheers,
Emanuel
Not at all hysteric but still testing!
 
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