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Ted is Back..

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Ted kindly took an hour out of what was no doubt a VERY busy day yesterday to speak to us for episode #48 of our RedCentre podcast. Mike Seymour dug deep, asked some great questions that really give a deeper understanding of the Oct 30th announcements and then some!

Links below. Love to hear what you think via 'red at fxguide.com'

cheers
jason

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I don't understand what Ted was saying about how the Epic-X will have the "pick of the litter" of the sensors, whereas the Epic S35 will not. He stated that doesn't mean these sensors are second rate by any means, but I have to believe that there has to be some measurable difference then between an Epic-X sensor and an Epic S35 sensor... Anyone have any insights on this?
 
I don't understand what Ted was saying about how the Epic-X will have the "pick of the litter" of the sensors, whereas the Epic S35 will not.
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I am not sure exactly what this means for RED, it may be why EPIC-X had a higher specified REDCODE than the S35. (250 vs. 225)

TI does this today with DLP chips. They offer two grades of the DC4, for example. In their case it has to do with stuck mirrors. Sony, for example, has dead pixel regions on their LCOS chips. They accept so many dead pixels per region on screen. Some regions don't allow any dead pixels. JVC has a new RS35 LCOS display that they are charging more for. It is the same design as the RS20, but it goes down a different path during assembly. Each LCOS chip has a native contrast. With the RS20, they assemble three chips and the native contrast is only as good as the weakest chip. With the RS35, they hand pick each chip (red, green and blue) to ensure they that all have the highest contrast ratio possible. AMD has 3-core CPUs. These are really 4-core chips but one failed, so they disable it and sale it as 3-core. Its also why CPUs have difference clock speeds.

The above are just some examples of what occurs today.

Back on topic, I too enjoyed the podcast. Mike asked a lot of questions that people on REDUSER have been asking.
 
There was a post somewhere on it. Basically, all the sensors in the S35 cameras will meet the specs, but some will exceed it, and those will be put into the Epic-X.
 
Jonathan Stevenson said:
I don't understand what Ted was saying about how the Epic-X will have the "pick of the litter" of the sensors, whereas the Epic S35 will not. He stated that doesn't mean these sensors are second rate by any means, but I have to believe that there has to be some measurable difference then between an Epic-X sensor and an Epic S35 sensor... Anyone have any insights on this?
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Let me explain what I think Ted was driving at. Ted was not claiming that the EPIC-X or Tattoo version would have a better spec, he was trying to casually say that if you invest in the early models you will not get 'crappy' early - "not made well yet" version of the camera. Clearly the pre-release versions of some things are not 'production' quality. This might be a concern to some. I think he was just saying.. We'll hand pick the sensors and make sure they are the very very best.. so if you were to offer an Epic-X to someone a year or so from now - there would be no stigma of them being 'pre-release models".

Also think about it from RED's POV - they will be judged from the first impressions gleamed from the first images posted and shown from the Tattoos. Wouldn't you put the very best sensors you had in the first cameras and really test them - if you were Red? Heck I would

Mike

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thanks for the kind words - it is an honor to serve this community, we thank you guys so much for your support and especially the emails we get about the show.
 
Great episode, Mike! I look forward to each of your shows and this one was great to hear the announcement analyzed from Ted himself with you representing all our questions in a very cohesive direct way. Thanks for the great work!
 
Thanks for clarifying Mike and Stacey. That makes much more sense.

I really enjoyed this episode!! Thanks a lot
 
I wrote this regarding the "Select" Mysterium-X chips in another thread:

It was talked about briefly some time ago, although not in any significant detail.

I believe that the "Select" versions are Mysterium-X sensors that are hand picked from the batch to have the best noise characteristics.

Any semiconductor batch has some variation in the parts produced. These will be the pick of the litter.

(And no, before somebody gets paranoid, that doesn't mean that other people buying non-select versions might get the "bottom of the barrel". It means that ALL parts meet the threshold for the required performance specifications. Some parts may exceed that spec, and might be considered premium.

Intel does this with CPU's... they design them to run at 3.0Ghz.... however some parts in a batch may test out OK at 3.2, so Intel will mark them as such and charge you more for them. )
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