Rick Presas
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On advertising in your work:
Sure. Lots of folks do it. Wesley Scoogins is a user on this forum, and he works for Indy Mogul which offers their weekly show for free on Youtube. In the middle of every <10min episode, there is a brief advertising interruption. Indymogul has been around for a time now, and their production values havent suffered, so i'd wager it's working quite well for them.
On the Digital Era:
I'm amazed that, in this forum of all places, so much of this type of talk is taking place. The digital revoltion has taken away a bit of our creative control with the finished product. This much is true.
But it has given us SO MUCH MORE. Digital technology has not only given us TENFOLD the options we had twenty years ago with AQUISITION (these days you can make a GOOD LOOKING feature film with $30,000 and NOT have 80% of your budget go to film stock expenses. But it has also given us dozens of totally new options for DISTRIBUTION.
Case in point:
I'm making a feature film this summer with a modest budget of about $50,000. If it comes out the way i want it to, then it starts the festival circuit. Going about it the old fashined way.
BUT WHAT IF I DONT GET A 7 FIGURE DISTRIBUTION DEAL (like 90%+ of all the films that make it into sundance, tribecca, and toronto)
I STILL HAVE VIABLE OPTIONS. I'll try my darndest to get my movie onto netflix (totally doable...I've seen GARBAGE go up there) to recoup my production costs, while simeltaneously self distributing the movie on AMAZON in digital DL form and on DVD (with a BUNCH of bonus features as purchase incentive...i'll give each of the cast members a flipHD camera and have them give us quirky "making of" antics).
THEN, i'll simeltaneously post the whole movie (in 4 parts) for FREE on youtube or some other such website, with a 1 minute commercial about every 10 minutes.
GOOD GOD HE'S MAKING A PROFIT!
There's NOTHING unrealistic about this plan. And its all thanks to digital.
But what about piracy? Well, i (to a degree) make P2P and torrent sites moot by offering it for free in the form i mentioned earlier. As a safeguard, I'LL PUT IT IN THESE P2P SITES MYSEFL WITH THE ADS INTACT. Will it eliminate pircacy? Hell no. But I'd be willing to bet t's take a sizeable chunk out of the problem, and *may* even work to my benefit.
So yes, we have piracy-a-plenty, but there has always been (remember the tape trade of the 80s?). It's on a larger scale now, mind you, but so are our options.
This is no different from the whiny comic artists moaning that their medium is collapsing under them, whyen all the while, webcomics are thriving. They don't want to go digital because they feel "it's beneath them to sell t-shirts."
YOU ARE AN ARTIST FOR A LIVING. You have among the most FUN jobs in the world, and you DARE complain? If you want to KEEP getting paid for doodling, jamming, or shooting a flick, EVOLVE.
Creative aritsits (musicians and filmmakers primarily)are all too willing to embrace the IMMENSE advantages that digital has given us, but with them we must ALSO adapt to the drawbacks.
Inspite of piracy being a household practice, this is still BY FAR the most exciting time to be a creative professional EVER.
So...ADAPT.
*edit*
Sorry for the long winded soap box trip. Back to the ORIGINAL topic, Dude, just get a bunch fo your friends to peacably boycott the business on the sidewalk outside. Print out neon fliers and hand them to every potential patron that walks through their doors. Its CHEAP and you'd be surprised how much it will work.
Sure. Lots of folks do it. Wesley Scoogins is a user on this forum, and he works for Indy Mogul which offers their weekly show for free on Youtube. In the middle of every <10min episode, there is a brief advertising interruption. Indymogul has been around for a time now, and their production values havent suffered, so i'd wager it's working quite well for them.
On the Digital Era:
I'm amazed that, in this forum of all places, so much of this type of talk is taking place. The digital revoltion has taken away a bit of our creative control with the finished product. This much is true.
But it has given us SO MUCH MORE. Digital technology has not only given us TENFOLD the options we had twenty years ago with AQUISITION (these days you can make a GOOD LOOKING feature film with $30,000 and NOT have 80% of your budget go to film stock expenses. But it has also given us dozens of totally new options for DISTRIBUTION.
Case in point:
I'm making a feature film this summer with a modest budget of about $50,000. If it comes out the way i want it to, then it starts the festival circuit. Going about it the old fashined way.
BUT WHAT IF I DONT GET A 7 FIGURE DISTRIBUTION DEAL (like 90%+ of all the films that make it into sundance, tribecca, and toronto)
I STILL HAVE VIABLE OPTIONS. I'll try my darndest to get my movie onto netflix (totally doable...I've seen GARBAGE go up there) to recoup my production costs, while simeltaneously self distributing the movie on AMAZON in digital DL form and on DVD (with a BUNCH of bonus features as purchase incentive...i'll give each of the cast members a flipHD camera and have them give us quirky "making of" antics).
THEN, i'll simeltaneously post the whole movie (in 4 parts) for FREE on youtube or some other such website, with a 1 minute commercial about every 10 minutes.
GOOD GOD HE'S MAKING A PROFIT!
There's NOTHING unrealistic about this plan. And its all thanks to digital.
But what about piracy? Well, i (to a degree) make P2P and torrent sites moot by offering it for free in the form i mentioned earlier. As a safeguard, I'LL PUT IT IN THESE P2P SITES MYSEFL WITH THE ADS INTACT. Will it eliminate pircacy? Hell no. But I'd be willing to bet t's take a sizeable chunk out of the problem, and *may* even work to my benefit.
So yes, we have piracy-a-plenty, but there has always been (remember the tape trade of the 80s?). It's on a larger scale now, mind you, but so are our options.
This is no different from the whiny comic artists moaning that their medium is collapsing under them, whyen all the while, webcomics are thriving. They don't want to go digital because they feel "it's beneath them to sell t-shirts."
YOU ARE AN ARTIST FOR A LIVING. You have among the most FUN jobs in the world, and you DARE complain? If you want to KEEP getting paid for doodling, jamming, or shooting a flick, EVOLVE.
Creative aritsits (musicians and filmmakers primarily)are all too willing to embrace the IMMENSE advantages that digital has given us, but with them we must ALSO adapt to the drawbacks.
Inspite of piracy being a household practice, this is still BY FAR the most exciting time to be a creative professional EVER.
So...ADAPT.
*edit*
Sorry for the long winded soap box trip. Back to the ORIGINAL topic, Dude, just get a bunch fo your friends to peacably boycott the business on the sidewalk outside. Print out neon fliers and hand them to every potential patron that walks through their doors. Its CHEAP and you'd be surprised how much it will work.
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