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Ok, heres a paraphrasing of his latest quote:

"His argument against digital is the picture doesn’t seem alive. He said you could sit in the front row of a digital film and see the digital artifacts and you can sit in the front row of a movie shot on film and see the chemicals in the film. The image on the screen could be a static shot of a man that never blinks, but when it’s film and it’s been through the chemical process the image is alive. You can see the chemical process after effects and even if nothing else is moving, the film has a life.

So he said he’s still the only filmmaker that cuts on a Movieola, cuts on film, and he’ll be the last person in the world to make a live action movie shot digitally."

--quote from Spielberg to Quint on the set of Indy 4,
from aintitcool.com http://aintitcool.com/node/34376

What do you think? I dont think he's seen RED. :angry02: I know we've talked about it before...but still... :angry02:
 
Whatever; Steven will do what Steven will do and it is usually pretty darn good. If he wants to be the last one standing using film, fine, he can afford to be. The new Spielbergs won't be shooting film.
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Who cares? You fanboys are starting to creep me out with your insanity. Film is not dead, contrary to what many have said on this site. Yes Red is great and one of the highest quality digital cameras, but it isn't Jesus. You don't need to praise it and you don't need to fear if everybody doesn't love it. It's a frickin camera! There is much more to movie making.
 
I heard that the new cameras have bleeding PL mounts that shed their tears every fifth Easter.
 
rgdfilmsRED said:
I heard that the new cameras have bleeding PL mounts that shed their tears every fifth Easter.
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Oh yeah?? That's nothin!! My #27 has stigmata...
 
Red is going to be even worse for spielberg's aesthetic.

He's right. You shoot a static shot with RED and it looks like a still photo if properly exposed. You shoot a static shot with film and the frame is changing and moving and evolving.

I like that look too. But I don't think post grain is a poor substitute for the real thing.
 
i just dont want to see artifacts if i sit close to the screen.

(and i dont give two shits if he doesnt shoot Red. save your put-downs for other sites.)
 
Hmm... he's got a point. He likes the feel of the processes of film... and Red does feel different to it... though if it's true that in post we can choose to emulate the feel of film if we choose to, that gives us freedom to do either.
 
Myktyl said:
Hmm... he's got a point. He likes the feel of the processes of film... and Red does feel different to it... though if it's true that in post we can choose to emulate the feel of film if we choose to, that gives us freedom to do either.
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This is really what it comes down too. Shooting Red means starting with one of the cleanest plates I've ever seen a camera output, so adding film grain is easily something we have the option to do if that's the look we want. I have a feeling the high end post folks are going to be the first truly vocal advocates of Red footage in the film world.
 
Myktyl said:
Hmm... he's got a point. He likes the feel of the processes of film... and Red does feel different to it... though if it's true that in post we can choose to emulate the feel of film if we choose to, that gives us freedom to do either.
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right - and therefore we should encourage graeme to write a *put through chemicals* plugin for AE and FCP.. :) - i love things like that


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Who cares? You fanboys are starting to creep me out with your insanity. Film is not dead, contrary to what many have said on this site. Yes Red is great and one of the highest quality digital cameras, but it isn't Jesus. You don't need to praise it and you don't need to fear if everybody doesn't love it. It's a frickin camera! There is much more to movie making.
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Wow. What's driving that little spurt of condescending pap? This IS Red USER isn't it? We have conversations about who is and might be using Red. Okay, fess up. Anybody here deceived into thinking it's more than a frickin' camera? But hey, thanks for the helpful comments.
 
Spielberg has money to spent, we don't. Film is still good, really. But I hate to go back where we have to wait for daily rushes, screwing around with keycode, get to the lab, do cutting, export DPX out, and wait for mistakes and producers screaming. No no...Red is not replacing Film, it's one of the best alternatives around.

There's a characteristic in Film where it's hard for Digital to mimic. CCD vs Celluloid. Of course there's a post where you can play around. But we're talking strictly when you shoot.

But to be very honest. I don't give a damn about this, such debate will never end. Story !
 
People just can't accept change. Come on look at technology, and rich people love to save, and make more money. So yes film will die I really don't care if it pissess you off. Film is awesome, but technology is going to kill film, face it buddy. It's ok to accept change it's only natural. But I know it hurts. Just like no one wants to face it that mac will take over, and trust me I don't want it to. I love surfing without worrying about viruses. RED RULES!!!!!
 
Enough with the mac fan boy shit. Mac is shit and overpriced. :shiftyph34r:
 
Spielberg is yet cutting with moviola.
Great. Can somebody explain me how they did Artificial Intelligence then?

Option A: Spielberg and Kahn have a powerful imagination
Option B: They transfer every digital effect at work in progress to 35mm.

Option A will be incredible, Option B will be a stupid waste of money.
 
you guys are nuts. who cares. film is film digital is digital. Red has brought digital to a point where it is amazingly high quality. I never have believed or will soon that red will compete directly with film. it is competing with other digital formats. if someone is set on shooting digital they may choose red, if they are set on shooting film they will not. period. two different formats.

personally, i like the clean static look of red footage. it's more modern to me. film feels all nice and warm and fuzzy inside... but the future is now.. its 2007. film was a 20th century thing.
 
polispol said:
Spielberg is yet cutting with moviola.
Great. Can somebody explain me how they did Artificial Intelligence then?

Option A: Spielberg and Kahn have a powerful imagination
Option B: They transfer every digital effect at work in progress to 35mm.

Option A will be incredible, Option B will be a stupid waste of money.
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It's all about organizing your workflow.
 
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