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Speedgrade Raw & DPX Workflow CS-6

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Ray Tragesser

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First off - thanks Adobe for delivering us what looks to me the best CS release to date. Double thanks for getting Speedgrade into this CS-6 release so quickly after the acquisition. Hoping to get some additional clarification on workflow.

1) Send to Speedgrade from Premiere. From the previews it seems that all media on the timeline is converted to DPX files. If we are working with ProRes proxy's for editing, how does the re-linking happen in Speedgrade to the Raw .R3D files?

2) When grading is completed in Speedgrade, what is the best workflow for getting back into Premiere Pro? Certainly DPX files are one type of media, but is there going to be an XML to go with those files, similar to Resolve?

If there are any videos posted online about this particular workflow, I would really like to see them.

Ray T
 
Ray Tragesser said:
First off - thanks Adobe for delivering us what looks to me the best CS release to date. Double thanks for getting Speedgrade into this CS-6 release so quickly after the acquisition. Hoping to get some additional clarification on workflow.

1) Send to Speedgrade from Premiere. From the previews it seems that all media on the timeline is converted to DPX files. If we are working with ProRes proxy's for editing, how does the re-linking happen in Speedgrade to the Raw .R3D files?

2) When grading is completed in Speedgrade, what is the best workflow for getting back into Premiere Pro? Certainly DPX files are one type of media, but is there going to be an XML to go with those files, similar to Resolve?

If there are any videos posted online about this particular workflow, I would really like to see them.

Ray T
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As you note Speedgrade is very new to the Adobe family. We did what we could in this release to have some integration. It won't be perfect for everyone. We are going to be looking for feedback as we work on much deeper integration in the future. For the time being. The Send to Speedgrade feature exports your sequence as a series of DPX sequences that you can grade. Premiere also exports EDL and Speedgrade imports EDL. Speedgrade has native support for R3D's and lots of other popular formats and their relinking is great.

Cheers

Dave
 
so David, could you give your recommendation on this situation how to deal best when you want to finish s3d??? is there an option where you could have the 2nd eye imported after it got sended to speedgrade as dpx sequence??
 
Hi David,

I think we all understand this is a 1.0 release and there are going to be many enhancements coming down the line from Adobe. We are all just wondering how easy or difficult its going to be to make the roundtrip between Speedgrade & Premiere. I guess the obvious comparison to be made is Premiere to Resolve - Resolve to Premiere via XML.

Can you tell us if its equivalent to that? I fear the EDL a bit compared to the XML route.

Thanks again.
Ray
 
There's also a feature to export a LUT based on a "look" from Speedgrade to use within Premiere Pro and After Effects according to the white paper. It doesn't support masks/vignettes. This seems to be a good workflow and I'd like to know more about it.
 
Can we shout a "Hell YEAH!!" to David and Adobe for being so responsive! Well played Adobe.
 
Phil Holland said:
There's also a feature to export a LUT based on a "look" from Speedgrade to use within Premiere Pro and After Effects according to the white paper. It doesn't support masks/vignettes. This seems to be a good workflow and I'd like to know more about it.
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After Effects and Photoshop support the .look files, Premiere does not in this release.

Cheers
Dave
 
Interesting. I wonder if it's something that a plugin could be created for. Having that support in After Effects is a plus for sure.
 
So it is safe to say that Premiere CS6 does not do color management?
 
Paul Lee said:
So it is safe to say that Premiere CS6 does not do color management?
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For the PPro projects that require color management, I've dynamic-linked the relevant PPro sequence into a AE project where you -can- apply color management. Works great.
 
I see that Premiere Pro has expanded its list of video cards that can be used as part of the mercury engine concept. What cards can be used with SpeedGrade? Is it limited to NVIDIA Quadro® GPUs? Thanks.
 
Any roundtripping with Premiere will currently require you to render the clips from SpeedGrade. For typical R3D workflows this would look like this for example:

Finish rough cut, save as EDL.

Bring into SpeedGrade, connect to R3D media.

Do first light grade.

Render out first light using original filenames and timecode, export EDL from SpeedGrade.

Bring rendered material into Premiere, finalize edit.

Save EDL.

Reconform in Sg re-using original grades and footage/alternatively conform with pre-rendered clips that Pr used.

Finalize grade.

Do final render in Sg.

Lin
 
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