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SOOOO MAD!

I can't really go in to any arguments as to me they really bring me no were, but I can say with immense pleasure and pride, that my idea with Green Solar Energy Corp. is exactly to work towards alternative energy sources that are Sustainable and none destructive to Humanity and our Beautiful and ONLY HOME, our PLANET!!
 
"WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says the federal government is sending BP a $69 million bill Thursday for costs so far in its response to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill."

Just to put this in perspective on what type of "fine" this is....

This is (69 million dollars) just a bit less than the amount of profit BP makes in ONE DAY. And it is about 3% of what Jim Sold Oakley for in 2007.

David
 
"What about Chernobyl? Well, the Russians were incompetent, the disaster was easily avoidable. When else has nuclear gone wrong? "

This is a joke? I remember your former joking when we talked about international law.

THREE MILE ISLAND -- YOU KNOW -- the incident that stopped the US nuclear industry in its tracks for 30 years?

I guess facts don't matter in the post modern world. Go sprinkle some nuclear waste on your Corn Flakes, buddy.

-- I wish people would add tide generation to their solar and wind lists. Tide is quite promising. We would have many better alternatives if the Reagan and the corporatists didn't attack the alternative energy industry for these past decades. Corruption and obstruction of competition are at the very heart of our current sad state.

We have been held in a stranglehold by the centralized energy oligopolies. Distributed production, where a central plant isn't producing the power, regular people and businesses are, is the best solution. We can take the power back by producing power at the places it is needed. Those who want to shove a top down consumer model down our throats, despite the risks and inefficiencies (nuclear for example) ignore these protests and basic logic. It's in their interest to get us hooked on their grid and keep us paying them.

We should use this latest oil disaster to push for more incentives to local generation, and away from the centralized models.

Nuclear is the worst possible option. Don't kid yourself. Your parroting of pro industry arguments are ridiculous. You couldn't even remember Three Mile Island even occurred. Please.

The Russians were incompetent?

British Petroleum, anyone?

You really love to argue don't you? You always turn threads into food fights? We were talking about the DP disaster in case you forgot. My former joking about international law? In the conversation I remember, I mopped up the floor with you.

About Three Mile Island, the problems with the plant were addressed and modifications were made to all other plants of the same design. The radiation leak was so minimal and the lessons learned have resulted in much safer plants today.

What do you have in your cornflakes? Sure, there was a ton of post Three Mile Island hysteria but there were no cancer cases that resulted and three or four months after the incident, there were no signs of radiation anywhere. Three Mile Island and Deep Water Horizon are not in the same category. You think I don't know about Three Mile Island? Bud I have written about nuclear energy extensively in college. It was not a disaster and certainly not in the same category as the Valdez and the Ixtoc oil spill. The Three Mile Island incident also seemed worse due to an anti-nuclear film called The China Syndrome, you may have seen it, in which a nuclear power plant almost melts down. It was released like three weeks prior and everyone went nuts. Sure the event slowed the production of power plants but I'm sure as you know, coal is so much better. Look at the numbers of mine related fatalities:http://www.usmra.com/saxsewell/historical.htm

How many men have we lost to nuclear disasters? None.

Ya, the Russians, were incompetent. If you studied Chernobyl you would know that. I'm not sure why I am arguing with you. You are obviously looking for a fight.
 
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Need oil? Grow Hemp
Although I'm not a fan of large tracts of mono culture, it is a renewable resource and makes a bio-degradable plastic that wont end up swimming in the ocean for the next 100 000 years.
BP is just keeping the American oil drilling tradition alive. Keep the well spewing out oil so everyone knows how much you got and how good you are.

I'm a former ROV pilot/technician and Marine Biologist for the offshore oil/gas industry in Northern Australia, glad I'm not involved with that shit anymore.

All wells should have a minimum of 5 options to activate the BOP
 
How many men have we lost to nuclear disasters? None.
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Actually, Andrew we've lost many people directly involved in our nuclear industry. I know of two. These deaths are not made public because the circumstances of their deaths are tied to our national security. Even our "private sector" nuclear industries are linked to the Department of Defense through the Department of Energy. So there is no accessible public records since they would hold a treasure trove of information for foreign intelligence services to extrapolate data about our strategic nuclear programs. Nuclear victims' remains are immediately cremated, as no post mortem exams are possible, and their ashes are encased with other nuclear waste and stored. Their families bury empty caskets, if they opt for a traditional funeral service at all.

Despite our best efforts, nuclear accidents happen. The nature of nuclear energy provides us with zero margin of error when these mishaps occur and like we're seeing in the Gulf of Mexico, there is no technology that exists that can contain even a modest discharge of radiation.

The best custodians of nuclear power is the US Navy. Most of our capital strategic ships are powered by compact and reliable reactors, some of which have been at sea for upwards of 40 years without incident.
 
Actually, Andrew we've lost many people directly involved in our nuclear industry. I know of two. These deaths are not made public because the circumstances of their deaths are tied to our national security. Even our "private sector" nuclear industries are linked to the Department of Defense through the Department of Energy. So there is no accessible public records since they would hold a treasure trove of information for foreign intelligence services to extrapolate data about our strategic nuclear programs. Nuclear victims' remains are immediately cremated, as no post mortem exams are possible, and their ashes are encased with other nuclear waste and stored. Their families bury empty caskets, if they opt for a traditional funeral service at all.

Despite our best efforts, nuclear accidents happen. The nature of nuclear energy provides us with zero margin of error when these mishaps occur and like we're seeing in the Gulf of Mexico, there is no technology that exists that can contain even a modest discharge of radiation.

The best custodians of nuclear power is the US Navy. Most of our capital strategic ships are powered by compact and reliable reactors, some of which have been at sea for upwards of 40 years without incident.

Granted, we only know about deaths that are made public. It is impossible to know if the information is never published.
 
its a fucking mess, not sure how they expect to clean this out of our marshes.
 

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So bad, I have family in the Gulf. Traveling next week to see for myself. Everyone's shaking their head in disgust.
 
what if it what really happend was really an accident.. but a bad one..

what if they drilled a little to deep and punctured the, for lack of a better word, sack of oil.. and it is unable to be stopped...

theres reports of it leaking 10-20 miles away.. seeping out of the ground (underwater)

so basically.. if this is really what happened.. and there is no fix.. then we are basically completely fucked..
just wait till the hurricanes hit.. thats when stuff will REALLLY be bad..

I feel bad for anyone living in that area.. its probably already to late for them..
the toxic gas benzene has probably already made its way into their lungs and drinking water....
look it up.. that stuff WILL kill
 
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