Sony A7r II - 4K internal want this!!

[Patrick Tresch]

Still can't compare to the awesome things the A7S can do in low light...

Base iso 800 instead of 3200 on s-log2 for the a7s. My bet is it performs 2 stop worst than A7s. ;-)

Yes S35mm si unusuable due to massive rollingshutter.

Pat

 

[Hrvoje Simic]

Still can't compare to the awesome things the A7S can do in low light.. plus the rolling shutter is kinda bad, wonder what this 5 axis stabilization is doing..

5 axis stabilization is designed for stills primarily which leads to jerky movement with continuous video feed when electronics has to make a pre-programmed decision and rolling shutter is bad if you plan on faster panning with telephoto lens as the 76 sec video with 21 sec of advertising does.

 

[Billy Jim]

The camera looks great but it has a Sony mount.

Which can be adapted to any other mount. Don't see what the issue is...

You can even put a PL mount on this thing.

Yikes! Any A7s owner experience similar flex?

https://vimeo.com/134481419

 

[Emanuel A.]

Still can't compare to the awesome things the A7S can do in low light.. plus the rolling shutter is kinda bad

Practically as same as a7S without mention S35 1080p mode equals FF 4K in the most recent a7RII... as far as rolling shutter concerns.

 

[Hrvoje Simic]

Playing with RX10Mk2...great little camera.

 

[Mark K.]

Still can't compare to the awesome things the A7S can do in low light.. plus the rolling shutter is kinda bad, wonder what this 5 axis stabilization is doing..

The rolling shutter readout in full-frame mode looks superb from those quick Newshooter tests, certainly better than any DSLR I've ever seen.

 

[Joel Arvidsson]

What is the dynamic range of Sony A7rii? What is Sony telling?

For the Sony A7s I heard everything from 15.3 stops of dynamic range down to 11.8.

Today I read a that there’s about 12.3 stops of dynamic range on the Sony A7RII and the A7S does about 11.8 in 4K (with an external recorder).
https://www.cinema5d.com/sony-a7rii-a7s-lab/

But the same site measured sony a7s to 14.1 stops usable dynamic range of the A7S (earlier) and writes its comes surprisingly close to the Arri Amira with its legendary Alexa sensor.
Check this graph for the sony A7s.
http://nofilmschool.com/sites/defau...a5D-Dynamic-Range-Test-Scores_DR1-616x409.gif


What is the most reliable site for dynamic range? is it DXO mark that I should be looking at? http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Sony/A7R-II
Of course it is most interesting to look at real images instead of test images but Its interesting to se it in comparison to other cameras.

 

[Maik Müller]

What is the dynamic range of Sony A7rii? What is Sony telling?

Yeah, thought the same when i saw this. Something is a bit messy here with the numbers. I guess there are different values for raw-stills, internal video and external video and those get mixed up.

 

[Eric Z]

What is the dynamic range of Sony A7rii? What is Sony telling?

For the Sony A7s I heard everything from 15.3 stops of dynamic range down to 11.8.

According to Cinema5D, the DR is about 12.3 stops. They measured 11.8 stops on the A7s, and 12.4 stops on the FS7.
So sounds pretty good.

 

[Joel Arvidsson]

According to Cinema5D, the DR is about 12.3 stops. They measured 11.8 stops on the A7s, and 12.4 stops on the FS7.
So sounds pretty good.

Yeah but check this image aswell as its from cinema5D aswell...
http://nofilmschool.com/sites/defau...a5D-Dynamic-Range-Test-Scores_DR1-616x409.gif

 

[Patrick Tresch]

On the a7s, I've mesured more than 14 stops. Take 13 which you can actually see an "usable" difference.

 

[Samir Patel]

Little low on funds at the moment but I'm still excited about purchasing this bad boy. If any of you took the leap please post your review. thanks yall. Love that we can use basically any possible lens on this.

 

[Andrew Usher]

I have an A7s and received the A7R ii few days ago. Not had a lot of time to fully test it yet, but so far been very, very impressed with it. Slog at 800 ISO is more useful to me than A7s at 3600.

 

[Bill Sepaniak]

I have an A7s and received the A7R ii few days ago. Not had a lot of time to fully test it yet, but so far been very, very impressed with it. Slog at 800 ISO is more useful to me than A7s at 3600.

Sounds encouraging. Let us know what you think after you have had an opportunity to play with it.

 

[Mike P.]

What do you mean A7rII at 800 is more useable? It's cleaner? It's brighter?

 

[Jason Mavrokefalos]

He means that the native iso rated at 800 is much more convenient than 3200 (A7s), which requires the use of heavy NDs unless it's night

 

[Mike P.]

I see...

Yeah, that's a tough one; I mean ND is cheaper/easier than more/stronger lights... It'd be sweet to only have to worry about shaping/creative lighting, rather than having a decent amount of ambient to get proper exposure. Actually, does anyone know why s-log needs to be locked to a "base" ISO? Would DR go to crap if you were able to lower the A7s to ISO400 or something?

 

[Patrick Tresch]

Remember the A7s is quoted 3200 in Slog but actually it's more like 1000 iso when measured.

 

[Maik Müller]

Actually, does anyone know why s-log needs to be locked to a "base" ISO? Would DR go to crap if you were able to lower the A7s to ISO400 or something?

You gave yourself the answer. There is just so much place in the sensors DR where a S-Log-profile fits in.

 

[Piero Sgarbi]

I have an A7s and received the A7R ii few days ago. Not had a lot of time to fully test it yet, but so far been very, very impressed with it. Slog at 800 ISO is more useful to me than A7s at 3600.

What about the low light? Can you show us some examples?? Please!!!