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Sony 4k sxrd for $25k

What's up next is better and cheaper, of course.

:-)

Stephen
 
Stephen Pruitt said:
What's up next is better and cheaper, of course.

:-)

Stephen
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Noooo!
Art thou clairvoyante?

My bet is this is the end ov development, the last ever of the best ever...

After these 25 are sold out, that's the end of the road, when it comes to projectors...
 
4K is knocking at the door, me thinks... :yesnod:

Wow, I am so happy with a simple 1K DLP projector,.. I wonder what my screen would look like with x8 as many pixels... And a 4K copy of Raiders Of The Lost Ark, for example. :001_wub:
 
$4K for the bulb. Really? Ouch.

So far, everyone I've talked to about these projectors, even Sony reps, say they're not great for color-accurate work. But every time I've seen the Sony 4K in action, it has looked really good. I don't have $25K in my projector budget anyway...
 
The comments I've heard is that they need to be calibrated more often. I think it's a lamp lifecycle issue. But like I've said, every time I've seen one in action it has looked great. I think I would trust it. If I were spending that much on a projector for color work, I would make sure I have a good color probe to calibrate it too.
 
Why would you buy a camera plus accessories for much more than 25K but not buy a projector which is able to project those image in their full technical resolution for the same price?

Sure you can get 1080p cameras way cheaper but at the same time you can buy a 1080p camera cheaply as well.
 
Darren Orange said:
Per my talks with Silverado, these projectors are fine for color work. Torrey might be able to toss in comment, he knows more.
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Filmlight uses these projectors in their London and LA theaters. These are great projectors in every aspect, except one very important one- atrocious color purity across the screen. Once I had to do a feature grade using one of the earlier models and the only way to grade was to use only the center portion of the screen, because left side of the screen was magenta, while right was green. Eventually Sony managed to built a custom matrix for that projector, which helped somewhat, but still it's nothing to write home about.
 
jake blackstone said:
Filmlight uses these projectors in their London and LA theaters. These are great projectors in every aspect, except one very important one- atrocious color purity across the screen. Once I had to do a feature grade using one of the earlier models and the only way to grade was to use only the center portion of the screen, because left side of the screen was magenta, while right was green. Eventually Sony managed to built a custom matrix for that projector, which helped somewhat, but still it's nothing to write home about.
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Good to know... I guess I have been getting some reliable info. But I also figured there was something to this when even two Sony reps said if I was using the projector for color-critical work, I would do much better with one of their other 1080p models. :cheers2:

Hey, XiaoSu Han. You do make a good point. I'm planning on buying a 4K projector, but there's more to a projector than resolution alone. For me it needs to provide the best color fidelity and consistency. All the pixels in the world won't help if I can't get accurate color across the projected image or on a day to day basis. I would spend $20K or so on a projector if it had everything I want. And no deal if the bulbs are $4K either. That's nuts. Not when I can replace the bulb in a Planar or Panasonic 1080p 5000 lumen projector for less than $1K.

Anyway, I'm behind schedule. I was going to build a screening and coloring room about 6 months ago, but it's just been one thing after another. Can't even make up my mind about where to build it. At this point I would have to build it in my basement and I don't want to do that. But I have all my commercial space leased out and I can't complain about that in this economy.
 
Nook Kim said:
Is it any good? ;)
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It is the same projector we have been using at RED for almost 3 years. We have taken it to NAB also, it is a really good projector. It is the smallest power projector in their line. Don't know if that includes the 4 input cards which can be HD-SDI or DVI.

That is a really good price also, makes me think they are going to be releasing something new soon. Possibly blowing out old stock before the next release? Just guessing, don't know nuthin.
 
From what I can tell by looking at their web-site, there seems to be newer models with different model numbers. Also, these special deal models are 5000 lumen ones. I assumed you guys would use the higher one at 10,000 lumens. Anyways, I'm seriously thinking about getting one if you guys say it's that good. Just don't tell me that you guys will release your version of 4K projector six months after I get one of these :)

By the way, can you direct me to some resources to find some info on the "4 input cards" you mentioned?
 
Gunleik Groven said:
Ouch....
So what's up next from Sony?

I can take one if they cannot get rid of them otherwise. Don't have 25k, though...
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They have a new models that are DCI compliant for theatrical use. These are the early models. You will need a 4xDVI GPU synchronized output from Your computer and a calibrator (such as the X-rite's i1-XT) at which point these are more then accurate enough for color-critical work. Unfortunately RED Rocket will not work with the X-rite. You would have to get the projector calibrated with a dedicated HW. I have used this exact model with Nvidia cards on a Mac Pro (with custom SW) back in 2005. The results were stunning. I can't recommend this projector high enough providing You have larger theatre/mastering room (lets say 10 people and up) and can deal with the HW requirements...

Otherwise wait for the Epson-based solution...

:devil: Peter
 
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