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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

The ONE killer feature -

visceralpsyche said:
How about resurrecting a concept someone Photoshopped here a long time ago when Red One was in development - a control module that is connected by a data cable such that you can hae it in place OR move it to wherever you're comfortable with using a rail clamp or whatever? then everyone's happy. :) Imagine the round puck shape of the Red One's control panel, but removable, and you've got the idea.

Paul
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Now here is some intelligent and doable proposal...
 
Ohh I forgot one thing. Maybe a adjustable/ collapsable carrying handle (kind of like ARRI). That way it can be adjusted to preference for shoot?

It could be fixed for the side and then adjusted with levers so either it's 90 degrees out on the side or 90 degrees to the center of the camera. Or something??? Just another thought.


Fredrik
 
visceralpsyche said:
How about resurrecting a concept someone Photoshopped here a long time ago when Red One was in development - a control module that is connected by a data cable such that you can hae it in place OR move it to wherever you're comfortable with using a rail clamp or whatever? then everyone's happy. :) Imagine the round puck shape of the Red One's control panel, but removable, and you've got the idea.

Paul
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Already been discussed in another thread. EPIC is announced as having WiFi control. Hopefully this is our salvation and we can have a modular control surface for the camera that can be placed anywhere we wish, up to 100ft from the camera.

But for physical buttons on the camera, I'd like to see all the controls on the "smart side" and maybe just the power button on the rear. Cable connections should be on the "dumb side" and offset and angled to route cables to the rear. ...Just my thinking.

I also want to see the 1:1 pixel zoom!
 
mmost said:
You do realize that to do this with a Bayer sensor, the image would, by definition, be black and white and displayed pre-Bayer?

I understand what you're saying, but full 4K debayering in real time is, in all likelihood, not practical at this point.
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We can do it on the Phantom 65.
 
Mitch Gross said:
We can do it on the Phantom 65.
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The Phantom isn't trying to do compression at the same time.

Of course, I also don't know how many (if any) parallel processors are in the Red.
 
Offhollywood said:
Yup.

And Mike - what I am asking for is not the entire image in 4K - it's a window to match the resolution of the LCD. And you can select the window area via the joystick. And black and white would be just fine!
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Love to see this on Epic.

But I also hope to see it on RED ONE. Just not in realtime.

IBloom
 
mmost said:
The Phantom isn't trying to do compression at the same time.

Of course, I also don't know how many (if any) parallel processors are in the Red.
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So?

Parallel system in the Phantom is one to record raw data and the other to send out a realtime de-Bayer. Don't see why on Epic it couldn't record to REDCODE instead of uncompressed, but the split happens before then.
 
Offhollywood said:
My second request would be to take ALL buttons off the back of the camera and put 'em where they belong -
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Maybe on a external mini touch-screen monitor/controller ?
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
But for physical buttons on the camera, I'd like to see all the controls on the "smart side" and maybe just the power button on the rear. Cable connections should be on the "dumb side" and offset and angled to route cables to the rear. ...Just my thinking.

I also want to see the 1:1 pixel zoom!
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To streamline things I would like to see all connection on the back, that
way you dont have to worry about elbows on your cables and can even
multisnake them easily. Dumb side is finem but I think back might be better ergonomically
 
Peter Majtan said:
I agree with Offhollywood - You could just take the green signal and show B&W crop with minimum processing - all You really need for focusing...
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a Black and white one to one crop sounds like a good idea to me. I have not needed color in my VF for 20 years, its nice but if I can get a better focus
I will take that.
 
Why doesn't some one knock together a control panel that plugs in via USB that you can strap to the side of the cam that lets the AC operate it all from the side. I know it is a prig having another thing that you have to attach but then it makes the camera great for everything/one. I like it at the back for shooting birds and pornography. Leaning around the side when you are the one an only camera op to check everything is a painful turd (same thing 1AC has to deal with all day long).

So there, make a bloody removable screen/control panel and jam it in the USB. Then every SOB is happy.
 
Only just noticed this thread after posting in the main forum.

How hard can it be to crop the sensor in the same way it does for 2K? I agree with Rory, this is something I've never expected not to see on the RedOne.

I'm sure Epic will have such a feature, I only hope that it isn't omitted from the RedOne as another reason to upgrade.

Not only is 1:1 invaluable for focusing during shots but it has great merit for collimating the mount. Given the Redone has from day one wanted to allow it's users to interchange mounts having this function should be a priority in my opinion.

Paul
 
The touchscreen control idea is a good one, I'd also like to see controls move to the smart side of the camera. I don't see why an accessory can't be made that would give you control of the Red One from whatever side you want. The supergrip had like 8 buttons on it, why couldn't an accessory have a joystick and a few other buttons, then it could be used with the monitor to control the camera.
 
I agree with Kinobairn.

Crews have asked us to pass on that the one thing focus pullers want is for the LCD and controls to be mounted on the camera left side of the body. At the very least some condensed hot button controls if not the whole panel.

As the focus puller normally works to the side of the camera it is awkward asking the DP/Operator to constantly move during the day to view, make or change specs on the camera.

I think this camera is moving towards being the ARRI 435 or ST equivalent for digital capture and on most film camera's the essential controls are mounted on the camera's side.
 
Touchscreen = bad, IMO.

I like tactile buttons so I can find the button I need without looking.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Touchscreen = bad, IMO.

I like tactile buttons so I can find the button I need without looking.
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I'd go this route

Prioritized control - buttons and knobs

Camera menus and settings - touchscreen


This tiny knob for menu navigation is killing me.
 
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