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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Some new changes...

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We were intending to buy the premium production pack - as well as both zoom lenses, the B4 adaptor, and the usual combo of power pack, 2 x drives, CF adapter etc. But as our delivery is about 6 months away we'd only actually ordered the camera body for now. I suspect this is a common behaviour.
 
Jannard said:
I think when you see what has changed, you will change your mind. Just my opinion.

Jim
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I believe he's referring the absence of the Premium Production Pack. Nothing less, nothing more.
 
If the premium package can be assembled from individual items, this is a price raise in discuise.

I don't like the idea of price changes a few months after order confirmation. Changing your pricelist usually affects new orders, not old ones.

And if this simply is a change in pricing, and if you decide to do it retroactivly, at least give us the option to accept the price raise without forcing us make nitty gritty individual parts picking.

I'm willing to receive a new order confirmation with a higher price as an act of goodwill, but I don't want to spend time on trying to foresee in detail what parts I will and will not need.
 
I just love the attitude to keep pushing out new features. I mean, e.g. look at Panasonic. They would not even listen to customers and implement a menu switch for rotating the recording 180° on the HVX for 35mm adapters. And once the cam was out, no chance to ever get that implemented. Not so on the RED One...

I also had the plan to get the Basic Production Bundle from the beginning and then just add the components I really need. I mean, what would I need a 2nd grip handle for if I have to use my left hand to pull the focus. And I need the 15mm rod adapter.
 
I was for the "Basic Production Pack" from the beginning.
And I can understand the situation now.
"Weight of the camera body is now an even 10 pounds"(Quote>>Jim)
and there is no need to make it all the kit even more heavy.
 
you're a must sanjin.. lol i've been laughing so hard :) my stomache aches.. :) :)
 
:sad: premium production pack.. :bye2:

:help:
 
Jannard said:
Don't know that yet... we under-estimated some of the costs, have made improvements in many of the parts and are trying to put a new "final" price list together.

I'd recommend buying the Base Package and building from there. The Base is a complete bargain.

Jim
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Thanks. I'll wait for the final list for any judgment. I mean, I do have a $2500 equipment credit, so I can't complain too much :) (other than asking for a 1.9 wide angle! ;) )
 
yeah.. since you're in hollywood, you can't complain too much.. imagine us outside.. :watsup: go figure!
 
dear red team,

how will orders with the premium pack be handled now?
you ship the basic pack and change the order automatically in prize?

but what´s up when i need more than the basics?

what is the way to order and correct my order? via email to the support crew?
 
Jannard said:
We have discontinued the Premium Production Pack rail system due to lack of interest and/or everyone wanting to substitute parts. The only system you can buy is the Base Production Pack, then add parts and pieces as you need them. The price of the Base Package has not changed, although it is severly under-priced. We will honor our commitment.
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I thought all the talk on the forum seemed to be suggesting that the PPP was popular!!!

Very difficult to give an objective reaction about this news without knowing what the options and prices of parts are. Will we see the parts + get a price list at IBC?

M
 
Red South West said:
dear red team,

how will orders with the premium pack be handled now?
you ship the basic pack and change the order automatically in prize?
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we'd also like to know..

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if they have the premium production pack (and i do not see any reason why not), i wish i could be one of them, then..
 
Jannard said:
After changes to the sensor board cooling system (different than we had 2 weeks ago)
Jim
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Doe's this mean I can go remake Lawrence of Arabia in 125º direct sunlight?
The sun's anvil is no match for Red... is it?
 
I had planned on the Premium Production Pack too. I just hadn't ordered it yet.

Bobble
 
Jack Wester said:
If the premium package can be assembled from individual items, this is a price raise in discuise.

I don't like the idea of price changes a few months after order confirmation. Changing your pricelist usually affects new orders, not old ones.

And if this simply is a change in pricing, and if you decide to do it retroactivly, at least give us the option to accept the price raise without forcing us make nitty gritty individual parts picking.

I'm willing to receive a new order confirmation with a higher price as an act of goodwill, but I don't want to spend time on trying to foresee in detail what parts I will and will not need.
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Hey, I'm sorry but some people need to think twice before complaining the way they do in this thread.:angry03:

I know Jim is a big Boy and doesn't need me to defend him, but I just can't let pass this kind of accusations like it's a normal thing on a board like this.

Hey jack seriously… Do you think the guys at Red need this kind of comments after all the hard work they've put up to offer us such a bargain of a camera.
I think it's time you relax a bit and do a reality check. When was the last time you got a chance to have such a close look at the development of such an extaordinary product.
Why don't you go and chat with sony or panasonic or arri's executives.
If you ain't happy or feel uncertain about this company's honnesty, by all means get your money back and stop bringing such accusations to this otherwise friendly and sincere board.

I can't believe I didn't even call you names:huh:
 
Bobble said:
I had planned on the Premium Production Pack too. I just hadn't ordered it yet.

Bobble
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Same here and with lots of rez holders that I know. Maybe Jim and the gang should consider leaving the Premium pack open for Rez holders as an option and see how many of us snaps 'em up... just a thought.
 
I was also going to buy the PPP, however I do understand that some of these prices have been a guesstimate. Jim admitted that they took an educated guess the camera would be $17,500 back at Nab 2006 - so much has changed that they might have discovered they were losing too much money on the PPP - to name just one item.

In my eyes that's ok, I always wondered how they could work out the cost of these things with 100% certainty when they were still in development. Sure they could have announced prices only tomorrow when everything is done, but then people would have complained that they couldnt budget unless they knew what everything would have cost.... there were bound be some revsions.

I think we've done rather well if that's the only item thats has been underpriced. The Red One itself has had its specs go up, but no price increase there.

I'd like to see the PPP back in there, but if it's a higher cost then so be it. I'm just lazy and cant be arsed to order all the parts individualy.
 
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