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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Some good RR news...

Jeff Kilgroe said:
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Another bright side to this is that ExpressCard 2.0 has been completed and we should start seeing it in new notebook systems late this year or early next year. That gives us double the bandwidth of the current exprescard -- going from 2.5Gbit/s to 5.0Gbit/s.
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Thanks for the info Jeff, do you know if with ExpressCard 2.0 we will be able to conect both an external card, such as the RED Rocket™ and external eSATA drives? If that works, then all we need is for Apple (at least that's what I need) to implement ExpressCard 2.0 quickly.

Cheers,
Damien
 
I do like the HP notebook that has the Dreamcolor screen, express connection, HDMI and eSATA all native on the motherboard. Does make for a nice field system - I know it's not a Mac - but I am ambidextrous that way.

Michael
 
MichaelP said:
I do like the HP notebook that has the Dreamcolor screen, express connection, HDMI and eSATA all native on the motherboard. Does make for a nice field system - I know it's not a Mac - but I am ambidextrous that way.

Michael
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link please...without a link it doesnt exist
 
Does the output off the RR have all Redcine (exposure, color, sharpness, etc.) settings applied to it? Just wondering how the debayered data flows to the GPU/CPU for this and then back to the RR outputs or are all these basic image adjustments now handled directly by the RR processing as well?
 
Matthew Greene said:
Does the output off the RR have all Redcine (exposure, color, sharpness, etc.) settings applied to it? Just wondering how the debayered data flows to the GPU/CPU for this and then back to the RR outputs or are all these basic image adjustments now handled directly by the RR processing as well?
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It has all the color and tone controls of REDalert/REDcine except that the debayer/denoise/olpf settings are fixed.
 
MichaelP said:
I do like the HP notebook that has the Dreamcolor screen, express connection, HDMI and eSATA all native on the motherboard. Does make for a nice field system - I know it's not a Mac - but I am ambidextrous that way.

Michael
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I'm testing that right now for MXO2mini. It is certainly a better Laptop.
 
Deanan said:
It has all the color and tone controls of REDalert/REDcine except that the debayer/denoise/olpf settings are fixed.
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Interesting, the Denoise/OLPF settings are fixed to what comparable software setting?
 
Matthew Greene said:
Interesting, the Denoise/OLPF settings are fixed to what comparable software setting?
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Default camera settings. They will be activated in a few days to RED Alert! choices.

Jim
 
I was little disappointed to see the OLPF were off on the beta, but now I will be a happy man.

I have a question.

In REDLINE, the sharpness in OLPF works beautifully, but why does REDCINE adds black pixels to the picture? Would Rocketcine-X add the black noise around the edge?
 
Also a new 17" Macbook Pro owner. Hope you guys keep aiming at the current exprescard configuration for the Rocket. I plan to get a full Scarlet+Rocket package for a full mobile/studio setup, and having updated my macbook pro now in fear of the expresscard slot disappearing in Macs, I hope to be able to use this machine with a Rocket! That would be an extra 2300 dollars for extra RED gear!
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Yes, I have a 15" MBP from October 2006 and it works great. It's still a workhorse and my mobile DIT station. I run an eSATA RAID on it all the time that I can benchmark at over 180MB/s sustained when connected to this system.

You do have to be aware of various eSATA adapters and how they are implemented.
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I'm mildly disturbed by this...
Which eSATA card are you using?

Also, on a side note, what mobile RAID setup are you running?
 
The Magma Expresscard Pro has been an awesome solution for us to connect RAIDS to our laptop on set
 
Justin Anderson said:
I'm mildly disturbed by this...
Which eSATA card are you using?

Also, on a side note, what mobile RAID setup are you running?
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I'm mostly using the CalDigit FASTA-1ex card, but have also used the Sonnet eSATA Expresscard. The CalDigit one seems to be slightly faster and I've never had an issue with it. The Sonnet card has been really stable too and provides two eSATA ports.

As for eSATA RAIDs, I have a couple. The one I primarily use with the MBP is a CalDigit S2VR that holds two 3.5" HDDs. I can get about 180+MB/s sustained reads using two Seagate 7200prm 1.5TB HDDs in RAID-0. But I typically keep it configured as RAID-1. I also have one of the new CalDigit VR minis and it's great.

BareFeats has the CalDigit VR mini benchmarked at around 160MB/s on Macbook Pros using the Sonnet eSATA card.
 
I've been using Sans Digital TRM-5 in a RAID 10 configuration using 4 Seagate 1.5TB drives with about 130mb/s sustained which is more then enough for red drives/red-rams transfer using the LEMO esata port or FW800.

With present technologies I wouldn't consider the Red Rocket in a Laptop configuration for TV work or Features. When your backing up 3TB worth of data per week and with FW800s lack of reliability on the 320gb Red Drives, I'm gonna need every bit of throughput from my PCI-e slot:). FW400 is not condusive to my life beyond the set.

I'm very curious to see what pci expander Red is presently testing and will I still have access to my esata drives?
 
Does this speed up renders / exporting?

Does this speed up renders / exporting?

So will this laptop edition be for just viewing of dailies at 4k, or will it speed up the renders / exporting of the 4k files too?

(If the laptop edition allows for quicker and better processing of the R3D's it is definitely something that I will consider getting, as I'm on the road a lot.)
 
Justin Anderson said:
Regarding the Macbook Pros,
I thought that the Expresscard slot was connected to the USB 2.0 controller, making it much slower than it would be if it was connected to a PCIe slot.
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Jeff Kilgroe said:
The ExpressCard is a direct link to the PCI host controller. In a nutshell, ExpressCard gives the equivalent of a single lane PCI Express slot or a max throughput of 2.5Gbps or roughtly 290MB/s less data overhead.
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The EX34 slot has PCIe AND USB in it.
Depending on the device, either bus is used.
The PCIe expander do what they say, expanding the PCIe bus. Memory cards however use the USB interface.
An expeption are Sonys SxS cards which have some special connection for the writing with higher speeds. Read-out connection though is again USB afaik.
In theory a eSATA-EX34 controller with USB connect is thinkable, but it is rather likely it is a slow controller chip or some other slow reason (firmware-driver incompatiblity or thelike).
 
Here some hard facts about the Expresscards and slots, instead of wild guesses: http://www.expresscard.org/web/site/standardsummary.jsp

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What is Mac offering a 34 or 54mm slot? I guess 34mm would be enough in most cases and would therefore not waste so much space.
 
Rocco Schult said:
The EX34 slot has PCIe AND USB in it.
Depending on the device, either bus is used.
The PCIe expander do what they say, expanding the PCIe bus. Memory cards however use the USB interface.
An expeption are Sonys SxS cards which have some special connection for the writing with higher speeds. Read-out connection though is again USB afaik.
In theory a eSATA-EX34 controller with USB connect is thinkable, but it is rather likely it is a slow controller chip or some other slow reason (firmware-driver incompatiblity or thelike).
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Hm.
So you're saying it might be the card I have?
 
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