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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Significant Update...

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Can one buy just an Epic-M Brain (today), LCD and drives without buying the $58k package. Don't have the time to scan every entry to see if this has been answered.


Jannard said:
There are some significant updates and changes that I would like to share…

1. EPIC-Ms are being built at a rapid pace. There is no waiting if you want to buy an EPIC-M starting tomorrow. Supply is limited. Just remember that these are still pre-production cameras and firmware upgrades will be necessary to enable some remaining features. EPIC-Ms have a 2 year warranty.

The EPIC-M program has helped us tune up for beginning EPIC-X production late August and full swing production early September.

2. EPIC-X will ship in the following order… Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 3.5, Stage 4. We will not begin to ship the next stage until the orders from the previous stage have been completed. If you don't want to wait, buy an EPIC-M.

3. Given the tragedy in Japan, EPIC-X production was delayed. The other side effect is that prices of many things have gone up. Given this, we are announcing a price increase on some items that will take effect on January 1st, 2012. If you have your order and deposit in before Dec. 31, 2011 you will get the old price. Any new orders placed after Jan. 1, 2012 will be charged the new price. Price increases in bold.


Product .................................... OLD PRICE ... NEW PRICE
RED ONE M-X .............................. $25,000 ..... $25,000
RED ONE Side SSD Module ............ $1500/ ....... $1500
Mysterium-X upgrade for RED ONE .. $5,750 ....... $5,750

EPIC-M Package ........................... $58,000 .... $58,000
EPIC-M brain ............................................. ... $39,500
EPIC-X Brain ................................ $28,000 .. $35,000 see note below
EPIC PL Ti ................................... $2000 ....... $2000
BOMB EVF ................................... $3200 ....... $3200
REAR SSD MODULE ....................... $1500 ....... $1500
SIDE SSD MODULE ........................ $1500 ....... $1500
DSMC Side Handle ........................ $950 ....... $1,750
MODULE ADAPTOR ........................ $300 ........ $300
PRO BATTERY MODULE (QUAD) ......................... $1950
RED Touch LCD 5" ........................ $1,600 .... $1,950
REDmote ..................................... $550 ....... $750
Pro I/O Module ............................. $2,950 .... $3,750
Pro Battery Module (Dual) .............. $1,250 ..... $1,450
REDVolt ........................................................ $195
DSMC Travel Charger ........................................ $125
EPIC-M custom lasercut Pelican case ................... $595

4. Stage 2 was changed recently. The newest package includes an EPIC-X Brain, Titanium PL Mount, Side SSD Module, 5" Touchscreen LCD, REDmote, Module Adaptor, Pro Battery Module, 2 REDvolt Batteries and Travel Charger. $28,000 less $8500 credit and keep your RED ONE. Net price $19,500.

5. Stage 3 will reflect similar changes to the package as Stage 2. Stage 3 package price is $28,000 less $17,500 and trade in your non-executed RED ONE. Net due is $10,500.

6. Stage 3.5 is the same as Stage 3 except you receive an EPIC-X Brain only and not the complete Stage 3 package. Net due is $10,500.

7. Stage 4 is a purchase only of an EPIC-X Brain for $29,500 (includes upgraded Titanium PL Mount).

Additional note: We have discontinued the aluminum PL mount option for EPIC.

Sorry for format... tabs don't seem to work posting.

Please note: EPIC-X Brain price was $27,500 + $500 for aluminum mount = $28,000. Since the aluminum mount is no longer an option, the current EPIC-X Brain is really $27,500 + $2000 for Ti PL Mount = $29,500. Same goes for 2012 price of EPIC-X Brain. $34,500 + $2000 = $36,500 including Ti PL Mount. Sorry about the oversight.

Jim
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Joseph Hutson said:
Ok. Change of subject.

Mounts aside, name one company in the industry which projects price increases 5 months ahead such as this "Significant Update" has done?
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Joseph, i love you man but I have to tell you that that is a common practice by thousands of companies, in hundreds of industries, including - at one time or another, virtually every company that Red competes with. And not to be cynical - but , while it may be completely truthful, it is often also a marketing/sales technique to increase current sales.

There seems to be a certain naïveté on this board about communications and service from the other companies. They may not have a public Internet forum, and service may have slipped a bit in the past few years as the highend pro market has died compared to earlier years and there have been repeated downsizings and reorganizations. But throughout the eighties and nineties, service and communication was pretty phenomenal - far superior to todays "call, get a voicemail, send an email and hope you hear back someday."...

I've never been considered a big money player, but i could give you dozens of examples where the likes of Sony, Panasonic, Fujinon, canon, etc bent over backwards to solve our problems or support an esoteric application.


Ps sorry for the mistakes, I'm a very good speller, but typing on an iPad, inside a waterproof bag, in a Hottub at midnight - is a bitch... ;-)
 
Yeah... but this is not the 80's or 90's. If Sony or any other company can give me what RED is giving me then I'd be spending my money with them. RED is unique in the features of it's products, in the price points of those products, in their upgrade program and in their service. Please show me the thousands of companies like RED... about the only other company I love equivalently is Flanders Scientific.
 
kinda missed the point of what i said.....
 
I hope you are thinking of the United States Postal Service as one of your examples.
 
Jannard said:
Sorry for format... tabs don't seem to work posting.

Jim
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Maybe it's a bit late, but I'll give it a try...

The attached file is a screenshot from RED's website. It could me hosted on a server :



Just my 2 cents.

Jannard said:
There are some significant updates and changes that I would like to share…

1. EPIC-Ms are being built at a rapid pace. There is no waiting if you want to buy an EPIC-M starting tomorrow. Supply is limited. Just remember that these are still pre-production cameras and firmware upgrades will be necessary to enable some remaining features. EPIC-Ms have a 2 year warranty.

The EPIC-M program has helped us tune up for beginning EPIC-X production late August and full swing production early September.

2. EPIC-X will ship in the following order… Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 3.5, Stage 4. We will not begin to ship the next stage until the orders from the previous stage have been completed. If you don't want to wait, buy an EPIC-M.

3. Given the tragedy in Japan, EPIC-X production was delayed. The other side effect is that prices of many things have gone up. Given this, we are announcing a price increase on some items that will take effect on January 1st, 2012. If you have your order and deposit in before Dec. 31, 2011 you will get the old price. Any new orders placed after Jan. 1, 2012 will be charged the new price. Price increases in bold.

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4. Stage 2 was changed recently. The newest package includes an EPIC-X Brain, Titanium PL Mount, Side SSD Module, 5" Touchscreen LCD, REDmote, Module Adaptor, Pro Battery Module, 2 REDvolt Batteries and Travel Charger. $28,000 less $8500 credit and keep your RED ONE. Net price $19,500.

5. Stage 3 will reflect similar changes to the package as Stage 2. Stage 3 package price is $28,000 less $17,500 and trade in your non-executed RED ONE. Net due is $10,500.

6. Stage 3.5 is the same as Stage 3 except you receive an EPIC-X Brain only and not the complete Stage 3 package. Net due is $10,500.

7. Stage 4 is a purchase only of an EPIC-X Brain for $29,500 (includes upgraded Titanium PL Mount).

Additional note: We have discontinued the aluminum PL mount option for EPIC.

Sorry for format... tabs don't seem to work posting.

Please note: EPIC-X Brain price was $27,500 + $500 for aluminum mount = $28,000. Since the aluminum mount is no longer an option, the current EPIC-X Brain is really $27,500 + $2000 for Ti PL Mount = $29,500. Same goes for 2012 price of EPIC-X Brain. $34,500 + $2000 = $36,500 including Ti PL Mount. Sorry about the oversight.

Jim
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Michael N. Sutton said:
Can one buy just an Epic-M Brain (today), LCD and drives without buying the $58k package. Don't have the time to scan every entry to see if this has been answered.
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Brent@RED said:
Yeah, we are working on those logistics. Coming soon...

BC
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That is awesome news! How soon is "Coming soon..." :emote_happyhappy:
 
will all the products like, pro i/o, touchscreen lcd etc possible to order at 2011 prices as a stage 4 1st time red buyer before the end of this year, or only the brain for sure?
 
Sabyasachi Patra said:
May be whoever wants a camera without a mount or only with a Canon/Nikon mount should be asked to wait till the mount is ready. Others in line can take the camera with PL mount now. :D Lets see how many are willing to wait for the camera with canon and nikon mount. :-)
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Not a bad idea.

I would be willing to wait, as I have sold my PL lens and bought up Canon lenses.
 
I updated my unofficial RED EPIC price spreadsheet. Check it over and make any corrections if needed. Putting a one (1) in cell B2 gives you the 2012 prices. Leaving it blank or putting in a zero (0) will give you the 2011 prices.

Here's the link:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...RZNWpkenZEUnc&hl=en_US&authkey=CKGyotsM#gid=0

Using this spreadsheet I did a comparison of the EPIC-M package price with similar accessories but with the EPIC-X brain.

PRICE DIFFERENCE
$46,000.00 - $12,000.00 -- EPIC-X Package equivalent to EPIC-M before 1/1/2012
$54,350.00 - $3,650.00 --- EPIC-X Package equivalent to EPIC-M after 12/31/2011
$58,000.00 --------------- EPIC-M Package Price
 
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maybe a bit off topic, but an official answer from red would be great: Are the dimensions for the Epic-M and Epic-X exact the same? Can we already start ordering accessories likes brooke's top plate, and will it fit the X?
 
Robert Shaver said:
I updated my unofficial RED EPIC price spreadsheet. Check it over and make any corrections if needed. Putting a one (1) in cell B2 gives you the 2012 prices. Leaving it blank or putting in a zero (0) will give you the 2011 prices.

Here's the link:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...RZNWpkenZEUnc&hl=en_US&authkey=CKGyotsM#gid=0

Using this spreadsheet I did a comparison of the EPIC-M package price with similar accessories but with the EPIC-X brain.

PRICE DIFFERENCE
$46,000.00 - $12,000.00 -- EPIC-X Package equivalent to EPIC-M before 1/1/2012
$54,350.00 - $3,650.00 --- EPIC-X Package equivalent to EPIC-M after 12/31/2011
$58,000.00 --------------- EPIC-M Package Price
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I think you missed a 0 in your price for the Epic M Brain.

But otherwise thanks for the leg work on pricing list! :thumbup1:
 
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