Shadow detail problem

[mtseng]

(Sorry, I accidentally edited over this post when I meant to reply to it. The original question was -- I think -- how to get an underexposed look without getting noise from actual underexposure, nor a crushed look from simply darkening a normally-exposed shot.)

If you don't want noise but want that "thin" underexposed look, then basically you want to underexpose your highlights slightly, don't lift the brightness in post (because you'll get noise) but lift the black level - because it's that milkiness you seem to want, rather than deep blacks. You just don't want the noise, you want a low-contrast image with weak blacks and dim highlights. So don't underexpose much at all. You can also try using UltraCon filters or other filters that lower contrast and lift the blacks, like Tiffen Smoque, Schneider DigiCon, etc.

 

[Justin Kirchhoff]

Dudez,

Something that dark with any type of exposure change to brighten it up will be noisy.

 

[mtseng]

dunnot change to bright
just not change and down the exposure
try contrast blacks without sucess

 

[mtseng]

thanks david i will try

 

[mtseng]

David how can i do this?
please post and example
i iam trying to lift black and getty muddy looks
plus the other scenes have deep blacks doesn't match with this scene if i do that
the highlights is already dim, actualy this is a real flat source of light.

 

[mtseng]

i don't mess with the brightness david
just export from redcine directly
iso 320 rec 709 rec 709

 

[David Mullen ASC]

I don't understand what look you want to achieve. Do you want it to look like the example you posted?

 

[mtseng]

there look to seem artifacts from red in underxposure areas transitions of shadow areas
with shadows with a little more light
try to expose little up and down the exposure or contrast the scene
but no sucess.
the DP is having real problems.
He already said that this is the film language?
what i do!????? please, help me David

 

[mtseng]

do you have an email David to send the picture i am trying achieve

 

[mtseng]

sended a picture in your verizon email david

 

[mtseng]

no this i posted is the flat image from rec 709 rec 709
the final look is to be more contrast and deep blacks.
and look very underxposed

 

[David Mullen ASC]

I can't see the problem you are describing. It just looks like an underexposed shot.

 

[dustentrance]

I can't see the problem you are describing. It just looks like an space waves underexposed shot.

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