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Sergey Kravchenko lomo update

Robert Horwell

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As many of you may have gathered sergey has surfaced again. I wanted to say a big thank you to all those people who have been in touch over the past weeks and months. For those of you who are not completely familiar tis was the original thread selling a set of lomos that i purchased from sergey kravchenko. http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...undfront-F-35-50-75-100-NEW-PL-mout-ARRI-gear

I feel a little update is in order for all those people who so kindly emailed me, through either concern or to offer advice or your own stories on dealing with sergey kravchenko. Also for those people who may be considering doing business with sergey in the future. As he has now upped sticks and is trading on dvxuser.

My lenses did arrive. Over 10 weeks after i paid for them in full. many of you followed the drama as it unfolded on this and other threads. Assimilating and piecing together all the information i received from both Russia and the rest of the world has been enlightening to say the least. It is now clear sergey lied to me on several occasions. Even concerning the alleged shipping date, the paperwork from the shipping company revealed all. As a result of all the deceit and lack of communication i lost all 5 of the jobs that the lenses had been earmarked for. One of which was a 15 week feature. I can't even begin to communicate the amount of stress this has caused, compounded even more by sergeys attitude towards me when the lenses did finally arrive. Like i was lucky, he had done me a favour.! Imagine my disappointment when i opened the packaging to find the condition of the lenses to be nothing like they were described "all lenses in set absolutely NEW , not used earlier for shooting .Multicoating fine , not damaged , glasses clean and clear , has no fungus or dirty inside . Mechanism of movement smooth " . what i found was the following: Oil coating the internal optics, iris ring stuck, focus gear hanging off, incorrect focus gear on the 100mm, it was a 75mm gear that had a blob of black paint over the 75mm engraving and the markings were a different color to the rest of he set, 10mm of backlash either way on the focus of the 50mm, lots of oil on iris blades on the 35, 50, 75. The 75mm had lots of dust and debris internally. White marks on the internal lens barrel walls, PL caps that don't fit, and i mean not fit at all, just sit on top of the mount, i ordered 6 more caps from Asher Cohen, that fit like a glove. In short they were nothing like what they should have been for the money i paid for them. I was expecting a set of glass ready to work. Also i did not receive any form of lens supports as advertised in the sale "Set include Universal supports for heavy lenses." The whole deal hasbeen a nightmare from beginning to end, and it still hasn't stopped. Sergey is no longer replying to my emails even though he is posting daily on dvxuser trying to sell more lenses.
One of the things that surprised me most was the number of people who contacted me to tell me they had trouble with sergey in the past, some still had ongoing debates concerning lenses that had been purchased and had not arrived in a suitable condition. I think many of them would not like to go public for various reasons including the worry that they stand even less chance of getting anything resolved with sergey if they do. As for me, sergey made it clear in his last communication with me that he does not intend to resolve any of my problems. Including refusal to send the lens supports and a correct focus gear for the 100mm, he also refused to cover any costs for repair of the lenses that was needed to get them into a suitable condition for work. They were repaired here in the UK by a very reputable lens engineer who concurred with all my findings. This is a highly condensed version of events as the whole story would take many pages. Total monetary cost to me including the work lost repair work on the optics $65400. Total cost emotional, physical, spiritual, that's another matter altogether.

As an outcome of this, i am wondering how we can protect each other from dealers such as sergey, who without doubt do damage to genuine dealers and just normal folk selling kit. i could have done more to protect myself including escrow, however i know this was not an option in the case. I've just got to wipe my mouth and move on.

Once again many thanks,

Bob x
 
I feel for you Robert. The whole thing sounds shitty at best. Thanks for sharing.
 
This boy ( Sergey Kravchenko ) form Moscow,Russia ... Some russian people no honest and swindlers .
Especially from Moscow city.
Be carefull
 
I understand your frustration, and I am sorry for your story. At least you got the lenses in the end. I have said this before, and I will say it again here- business in the former soviet republics is not like business in the western world. ANY LENS you buy from a former soviet bloc country is going to need service. Even if they are brand new, and many are, they have been sitting in a shitty leaky rainy warehouse for 20 + years with -50 winters and no heat. they are going to be all fucked up. As far as I know, none of the post soviet guys with the exception of Olex and Rafcam are actual film biz people. They are just guys who figured out that old soviet glass is worth some money. If the focus ring turns it's good in their opinion. All the grease is dried out, and has precipitated oil all over the elements and iris blades. The soviet cases sucked. The optics are great, the last 30 years, not so much. Please take this into account when buying lenses from the east. I have seen prices go to extra stupid town, and the quality is going down hill because all the good lenses got sold 5 years ago. Now it's the last crap that somebody can find in an old ware house in Waziristan. Don't pay In the west with film people prices for in the east with goat hearder dealers lenses.

That being said, I have bought ..... 6, 4, 4, 2....16 lenses from there for good prices, and had them serviced and they are great. But, Caveat Emptor.

Nick
 
This boy ( Sergey Kravchenko ) form Moscow,Russia ... Some russian people no honest and swindlers .
Especially from Moscow city.
Be carefull
Well, there is no need to paint all Russians with the broad paintbrush of universal dishonesty.I deal with Russians from Moscow on weekly bases and I couldn't be happier. Majority of Russians are warm, outgoing and honest. Sergey is one bad apple, not unlike infamous Torrey Lomis.
 
I feel for you Robert. The whole thing sounds shitty at best. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you clint, my reason for sharing is to let others learn from my mistakes, as far as i'm concerned there is nothing to be gained from this now. Sergey has made it clear he is not going to send the rst of the kit, or recompense me.

Wow Robert. What a journey... and to think he's still doing business on other forums. Is he still going by the same name? Does Barry Green or the other mods on DVX know about all this?

Thank you Bob, I think they may be getting the idea, i have posted here http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...d-Focus-gear-ring&p=1986174667#post1986174667

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your update it does shed some light on former experiences on my side.
I hope you can get the lenses in good working order again.
good luck, Herman

Hi Hermann. I'm amazed how many people have put up with his behaviour. I know you and I have done business before Hermann and always found dealing with you very straightforward.

Well, there is no need to paint all Russians with the broad paintbrush of universal dishonesty.I deal with Russians from Moscow on weekly bases and I couldn't be happier. Majority of Russians are warm, outgoing and honest. Sergey is one bad apple, not unlike infamous Torrey Lomis.

Agreed Jake, i have made some very good and honest contacts in Russia as a result of this happening to me. Many of them disgruntled because they know that they will also be tainted by what has happened. We have dubious dealers here in the UK to, but it doesn't take us long to weed them out. Fortunately we have some good guys also :-)
 
It is a dramatic experience. And for Sergey a stupid way to lose a good reputation. In Spain we said "Antes se coge a un mentiroso que a un cojo". I think any community is based on truth and trust.

Regarding what Nick wrote, geopolitical conditions may affect the way we do business in Russia but I think it's a matter of people rather than countries. I am a lover of Russian lenses and I took 2 years building my set (it is like a drug). I have worked with several suppliers from Russia, Ukrainia, Belaurs ... Olex is a great professional and a wonderful person, like Rafael from Rafcamera. But also Dima Turaev, a friendly, rock solid and professional from Saint Peter, Sehrij Piskunov from Kiev, Mika from MoscuStore ... They have always done what promised. I can not say the same of some western suppliers. Also Sergey did, with a similar problem that Robert had at my first purchase (7 weeks waiting my lens) but lenses in superb conditions. But I am really surprised with his attitude, I was sure that Robert lenses will be in perfect shape. He paid an extracharge because they was new, unused. I can't believe something like this...

Best wishes to all, specially to Robert



 
Guys i also had a bad experience with Russian people they overcharge me for servicing their original anamorphic set in elite optics dealing with russian people is a rung way to go believe me one day you will be regret about it like me
sorry to hear this stories there should be some trusty onion here in the forum and add ranking for other pepole
 
As an outcome of this, i am wondering how we can protect each other from dealers such as sergey, who without doubt do damage to genuine dealers and just normal folk selling kit. i could have done more to protect myself including escrow, however i know this was not an option in the case. I've just got to wipe my mouth and move on.

We nearly bought a lens from this guy this year. In fact we sent the money to him, but our bank stopped the transfer because he was a fraudster. Now I was going to post here about it, but there were a bunch of people saying that he was genuine and that there must have been a mistake regarding your case. I just thought that maybe there were two people with the same name. Either way, we didn't send the money and I got a super good deal on a RED 50-150

Don't pay In the west with film people prices for in the east with goat hearder dealers lenses.

This is really rude
 
The threads on dvxuser have been delete but Sergey is still allowed to trade on there for some reason. Maybe it will take another upset like this before they take action? I hope not.
 
Where I come from this kind of behaviour would result in a 'diplomatic visit' from several firemen. Big firemen.

Mike
 
Gentlmen
I have done a Russian translation of the words I received from Sergy by Email. He speaks of Goats and other animals. Nearest I can find as a translation is " Beasts" so I suppose those of us who have sufferred his ramblings are all beastly to him?

I find it strange that he has two writing styles. When he is being nice and selling, his English is very lucid however when he gets rattled he writes absolute rubbish. I have been told by him to " learn how to speak goats by Spielberg" before writing?? as one example.

Whatever; In my book he spoils the word "Dealer" for those of us who try very hard to give great service.

I have to say upfront that I have an interest in Bobs problems and as an Oldtime Camera mechanic who has been involved with Sales and Rental for best part of 40 years this guy is probably the worst situation I have EVER come across.

I also hope that the Mentors at DVXuser understand what their website is being party too !

Be careful out there.
Tony Covell
London.
 
I just heard from dvxuser. They have done the right thing.
 
Look out ebay... here comes Sergey! Anyone know his ebay ID?
 
Ahhhh, grizzlybear33 I believe? Could be.
 
Are you 100% on this?

If not, it's bad to tarnish another reputation.
 
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