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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Schedule and Machined EPICs...

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I guess for the most part, the real value of the Handbuilt cameras will be determined by the delivery schedule of the Production model once they start becoming ready. If they start coming out in april and theres another couple of months wait before your camera arrives, then that additional cost for the early handbuilt ones starts to look like nothing.

Im still down for a $58K Epic-M if I get the chance. (just saying)
 
Part of being an early adopter is paying attention all the way through time. I'm going to post the program here and see who responds. I'm not going to send 10 emails to every customer to see if they are interested. Those that are early and still in will be 1st in line.

Jim
 
thomasakiranak said:
isn't titanium 60% heavier than aluminum?
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Yes. Well, depends on which titanium alloy would be used, but yeah, it will be heavier. $20K is a lot of money to pay for a heavier camera. But it's $20K worth of status that some people might do. IMO, it makes just as much sense to have the brain gold plated.
 
Jannard said:
The good news is that if you think the price doesn't make sense... you don't have to buy one. It amazes me that these same questions aren't asked of the companies that make a 1080P camera for $70K- $250K.

Jim
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Exactly -- it also amazes me more aren't seeing it the way I described -- basically that you could (and probably should) be charging a lot more for the production cameras.

A production Epic from another company would be be 5-10 times the 28k price. Let's not bemoan Red charging more for a totally handbuilt, machined version ...
 
Jannard said:
Part of being an early adopter is paying attention all the way through time. I'm going to post the program here and see who responds. I'm not going to send 10 emails to every customer to see if they are interested. Those that are early and still in will be 1st in line.

Jim
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I'd like to sign up sir.
 
Time to buy some scratch tickets… meh I’m sure they’d all be gone by the time my place in line came around anyway. Wait, who am I kidding? I’m not even in line.

Seriously cool idea though. Especially for those that might have been looking to buy multiple EPICS. It will give them something to consider. Should stamp them with a special R or something for collector value.
 
Jannard said:
Part of being an early adopter is paying attention all the way through time. I'm going to post the program here and see who responds. I'm not going to send 10 emails to every customer to see if they are interested. Those that are early and still in will be 1st in line.

Jim
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Would love to sign up, but price is just too high for me.... But if I had the cash I would be in line right away.
These will be worth so much...
 
Jon Howe said:
Jim, is provided everything goes to plan, will Scarlet still follow approximately two months later? Thanks.
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Scarlet 2/3" is right on the heels of EPIC.

Jim
 
With orders from a richer RED user customer base and also competitors like an Arri, Panavision, Sony, Aaton, Canon, Panasonic (all they want to see first what is going on there with Epic)...to main world camera rentals it will be about 100 or even more...busy holidays...
 
E. P. I. C.

Every

Piece

Intenstly

Complicated.

A nuclear generator in a matchbox!!!

Waiting patiently for stage 3 Epic-X R1 # 4455. :) I already owe the bank way too much money but would love one of those Epic-MMMMMMM's.

Wait to see how much those are worth in 5 years, look at the #25< R1s. A piece of cinema history.
 
Jim you are an absolute legend!

WOW! $58,000 for an Epic-M package and jump a few thousand places in the queue = bargain. I can see those 100 places being snapped up before the end of the week if you started taking orders now.

To put things in perspective - http://www.abelcine.com/store/ARRI-ALEXA-DTE-SxS-Pro-Set/

Alexa Kit = MSRP $79,641.00 :willy_nilly:

Keep on rockin Jim and Team RED.

All the best,
 
Jannard said:
Part of being an early adopter is paying attention all the way through time. I'm going to post the program here and see who responds. I'm not going to send 10 emails to every customer to see if they are interested. Those that are early and still in will be 1st in line.

Jim
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Given the opportunity, my Epic M would be put work to work immediately on a Feature in Chicago this January, a tv pilot and several National Ads... And that's just till this coming March.... MX#557 has opened some incredible doors for me, please count me in Jim. I don't post often but I always pay attention...

Cheers- Andrew
 
Actually... it is a bit embarrassing for EPIC to be named in the same sentence as the Alexa. A 1080P camera isn't in my thinking. If you want 1080P, take our HD-SDI output and record it to any number of options. But why would you do that?

Jim
 
Jeff Coatney said:
There are two ways to make a camera body: carve it out of a block of aluminum or cast it in a steel mold. The molds are not ready yet, so the option exists to carve the camera bodies out of a billet of aluminum... one-at-a-time.

The industrial term for a mold is called tooling. The mold is cut on a CNC machine (kinda like a 5 axis router) out of tool steel that is hard enough and stable enough to have molten liquid aluminum poured into it tens of thousands of times in its lifespan.

It takes anywhere from 30 to 45 days to cut an industrial mold and build it into a production tool. -- They are articulated to aid in the release of the very hot, formed part.

If you have a Solidworks™ file of the body, you can feed instructions to the CNC machine ( hence: Machined )and cut the camera body out of a billet of metal in a matter of hours. These CNC machines (CNC= computer numerical control ) are expensive and can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. The downside is you can only get about 1.25 camera bodies out of a single machine in a 24 hour period.

Molded bodies can be made in a single injection-molding machine at the rate of several hundred a day.

While the machined part is stronger, the strength is relative to the mission. A cast camera body will stand up to anything you can throw at it. The machined body is overly strong.
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oh wow! thank you!
did you work on "how it's made" or something? ;-)
 
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