Scarlet-M (fixed) - Would you buy?

[Wayne Morellini]

What was the M again? A bigger sensor, full zoom manual auto fixed lens, yep. But cost is not based on how much others charge, but on how much canbe made. A consumer camera can afford more professional features than a remote cinematography version, as it can sell 100 times as many. The SSD drives in laptops and moving to 260+ megabytes persecond, complete overkill for scarlet redcode, so those prices canbe done cheaper.

A fixed lens does not have to be much bigger or expensive than a mountable. The lens canbe recessed into the sudeof the body to give sure access to certain side controls, and a fully manual and auto red version of the wired lens can be made offering full filming and stills features.

Which market are you after, we have epic, and there are relatively to few cinematographers to the rest of the industry to flood that market with too many cameras.

 

[David Rasberry]

What was the M again? A bigger sensor, full zoom manual auto fixed lens, yep. But cost is not based on how much others charge, but on how much canbe made. A consumer camera can afford more professional features than a remote cinematography version, as it can sell 100 times as many. The SSD drives in laptops and moving to 260+ megabytes persecond, complete overkill for scarlet redcode, so those prices canbe done cheaper.

Which market are you after, we have epic, and there are relatively to few cinematographers to the rest of the industry to flood that market with too many cameras

"M" in the context of this thread means a hand machined pre release version of the Scarlet 2/3" fixed model, similar to the Epic M. The question was would some pay a premium price to get one sooner? Seems like Red has made it pretty clear they would rather cater to fewer people with exceptional cameras and support for now than go mass consumer market.

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Ok, I get you, I thought this was some reference I had forgotten to a larger format scarlet. In that case it doesn't matter, sorry for wasting evetybodies time.

 

[jack tobermann]

The thing about the scarlet is that even if it cost $10k to $12k, the rental fee on it will be very very low. Think about it, how many projects do you actually need a camera for? Excluding tests and messing around with it filming your dog at your house? The Scarlet will be very powerful and will be able to shoot most professional projects, if the rental fee is less than $1000 bucks, then that's great, food budgets cost more than that on shoots.

 

[Richard_JP]

The thing about the scarlet is that even if it cost $10k to $12k, the rental fee on it will be very very low. Think about it, how many projects do you actually need a camera for? Excluding tests and messing around with it filming your dog at your house? The Scarlet will be very powerful and will be able to shoot most professional projects, if the rental fee is less than $1000 bucks, then that's great, food budgets cost more than that on shoots.

Not really sure what the hell you're talking about. I would be shooting every week with the Scarlet. It will pay for itself multiple times...

 

[Joseph Hutson]

Don't forget that you should strive to make yourself valuable to the market. I think that should be more important than the gear you own. No?

 

[Michael Dalton]

yes in a second!

 

[Eston Diaz]

Red (all models) are the present and future standard. I shoot on Canon's now cause I have to. I will shortly be shooting on Reds cause I WANT to. I called it from the moment of inception. I was right then and I'm still right.

 

[Nathaniel Haban]

The thing about the scarlet is that even if it cost $10k to $12k, the rental fee on it will be very very low. Think about it, how many projects do you actually need a camera for? Excluding tests and messing around with it filming your dog at your house? The Scarlet will be very powerful and will be able to shoot most professional projects, if the rental fee is less than $1000 bucks, then that's great, food budgets cost more than that on shoots.

I'll argue semantics with you and say that the rental cost will be relatively low. This is where Joseph is absolutely right. If you're fortunate enough to rent your kit out, you have to show the kind of quality work you can do. In my area, there is a staggering amount of short and indie films being made. Most you never hear about, because they are done by cliques of filmmakers who either didn't need, or didn't want outside help. I got my foot in the door doing lighting work, and slowly moving into camera and cinematography. They kept calling me back and referring me to other productions because of the work I did. Now, I do pretty steady work with these groups. To me, I'd rather be working steady and often and growing my network of contacts, than "hitting a home run" by renting out a kit for some exorbitant amount, a few times a year.