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Scarlet Built In ND Filters

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Vinit Borrison

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Not sure if this is in the forums already, but I think this would be a nice feature on all the scarlet bodies, especially if its supposed to be a small form factor video/stills camera.... It would really be a pain in the a$$ to have a camera that you'd have to throw ND Filters on to use your nikon lenses for video mode. Stills not so much because of shutter speed compensation, but if its a very simple "switch" to get into video mode, I'd be disappointed to have to dig through a bag to find the "right ND" filter to make video beautiful with shallow DOF....

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Even for the other versions... The more stuff you have to carry the less portable it will be. No need for IR ND's!
 
That would be very nice. An AF option would be nice also with the fixed lens.
 
Frankly i'd like to see a lot of consumer features make it into the fixed lens Scarlet. Things like autofocus, internal NDs, a built-in microphone, night vision mode, a built in LCD, autoexposure, etc.
 
I'd LOVE to see built in ND's in Scarlet...and Epic. If you're using a mattebox you can always keep them off, right? But then you have then if you need them. So no loss either way.
 
definitely built in ND's would be so nice
 
Brook Willard said:
Frankly I'd like to see a lot of consumer features make it into the fixed lens Scarlet. Things like auto-focus, internal NDs, a built-in microphone, night vision mode, a built in LCD, auto-exposure, etc.
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Yes. Internal NDs are a no-brainier. A nice built-in stereo mic is sometimes useful to fill out a 5.1 mix, or to sync things up if you didn't slate. Auto exposure (auto-iris) is also very useful, especially when you add backlight and spotlight algorithm options. I've been using auto-iris more and more.

But auto-focus, I'm still trying to figure out a professional use for that one. Where does the lens auto-focus? Having the focus area dead center is almost always bad framing.

Another thing that hasn't been mentioned is the speed and responsiveness of "Fly-by-REDWire". Can this replace a Bartech device? Can Fly-by-REDWire be done wirelessly? Can I do snap-zooms with this?
 
Dave Gish said:
But auto-focus, I'm still trying to figure out a professional use for that one. Where does the lens auto-focus? Having the focus area dead center is almost always bad framing.

Sorry, I use autofocus quite a bit. Very difficult using a steadycam or crane and trying to manually focus. So, don't see anything unprofessional with some auto features. I certainly use manual features in setup, tripoded, and rehearsed shots. I would like to know if there would be image stabilization (if not via the lens) and autofocus as well.
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David Stewart said:
Very difficult using a steadycam or crane and trying to manually focus.
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Autofocus is a big no-no for Steadicam. See here for details:
http://www.steadicamforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7431&hl=auto

Even without a moving camera, my understanding is that auto-focus will keep the center area of the frame in focus. Keeping the subject dead center is almost always bad framing.

Optical image stabilization (OIS) requires the sensor to be mounted differently. It's a mechanical thing. I don't think the chances of RED doing OIS are very high.
 
I would love a built in ND filter on all the Scarlet models.
 
Yeah built in ND ins all cams would be the suuper bomb.
This would realy be a progressive thing.
No more ND filter sets that get broken or lost.

Bring it on RED

Cheers
Tim
 
I SERIOUSLY doubt that we'll see built NDs on anything but the Fixed Scarlet.

But for the Fixed 2/3... I think you NEED to have NDs in this puppy... and I would expect them to be so gracious as to give us three of them (like the 170 and EX)... the whole business angle here guys (IMO) is to get people shooting R3D... they don't need to make money on the camera, just not lose too much... sell few accessories and presto! Fixed Scarlet didn't spill any cash off the sheets, plus those guys can't upgrade, they need to buy a second camera and keep fixed Scarlet as a B camera... plus there is also the whole marketing value or cost of meeting or not delivering a "shoot out of the box" + "professional piece of equipment" promises... it looks like they found a way to keep their cost promise... I think we will all be dumbfound when we see this baby come out with 2 channels of 48/16 audio, three NDs, AF, etc etc... not the built in Mic is really not an issue at all... built in mics are the most unnecessary part of any camera and the first that you should upgrade, the one you should never use unless everything else falls apart and that is the only back-up parachute left... or like Dave mentioned if you need to sync a B camera with the slate.

So if you absolutely need the space and you have the 2CH of audio, then go ahead and scratch the mic... but after setting the bar so high I am expecting the other Prosumer features to be included in this pocket rocket Pro camera we like to call Fixed Scarlet.

Please don't slow down now RED team! Take a breather over the Holidays, you probably need it, but get back to work and rake in that cash with OT hours... make our geek dreams come true so we can get our visions in the can!
 
Sorry, don't have a wireless remote assistant. I'll try the six feet setting next time, but AF has worked well for me. Thanks for the link. I tend to shoot tight with a steadicam anyway, so subject usually fills the frame. I never zoom on a steadicam. Movement is accentuated. My feet do the zooms. Wide angle attachment makes the camera front heavy and my camera is already front heavy. If my camera goes out of focus for an instant, then multicam to the rescue. Anyway, love the cable TV shows where some guy is manually focusing. When they cut to a camera and the operator zooms in on something it's always out of focus for a second or two till he gets it in focus. Very annoying. Happens all the time. So what's the diff? If I'm shooting a stage or planned shot, definately manual. Run n gun - hmmm - too much to think about, so usually AF. OIS is pretty standard on video cams with a fixed lens. If not, then Scarlet would be pretty much non handheld unless your're a really really good hand held camerman. Manual zoom would certainly suck too. Now if my IS canon lenses would work on the Scarlet, that would be fine, except for the manual zoom.
Dave Gish said:
Autofocus is a big no-no for Steadicam. See here for details:
http://www.steadicamforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7431&hl=auto

Even without a moving camera, my understanding is that auto-focus will keep the center area of the frame in focus. Keeping the subject dead center is almost always bad framing.

Optical image stabilization (OIS) requires the sensor to be mounted differently. It's a mechanical thing. I don't think the chances of RED doing OIS are very high.
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Agreed... built in ND filters would be Great!

1/8.. 1/4...1/2....1 ND + 4 & 8 point stars


Dave
 
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