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SALT Results... (Part 1, Results)

Hi Matt

Thanks for your response!

Matt Uhry said:
We did not test performance at close focus - Trust me we had our hands completely full doing what we did in a day...
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I appreciate how difficult these things are. Maybe if there is a part 2?

regards

Michael

PS CF performance I always felt was one of the key differences between UP and some older Zeiss glass for example! My understanding is that producing glass that performs as well close as far is a significant challenge.
 
Evin Grant said:
I really can't say because after talking extensively with Lumatech I know the final designs will be substantially different than those prototypes shown at NAB. This is why they were not able to participate in SALT, the protos were back in eastern europe.
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Which is why the Rebels were not present either.
 
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Rodney James said:
Brook the Uniq Optics have a recessed focus ring if I can remember correctly but you did not mention it in the review. Or am I wrong?
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The Uniqs focus gear does extend beyond the barrel, or is uncovered as it were.
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Still it is a minor quibble that will be easily worked around by your AC (thinner focus gear).

One idea may be for a third party to create a thin delrin extention gear to extend the gear beyond the cowl. Should be pretty simple and cheap.
 
I too felt the 100mm was a bit softer/flatter/something than the very contrasty 85mm, however it does have a certain look to it. Said look is what made it probably Jarred's favorite Prime thus far based on the grabs he's posted, and DSMC teaser footage. I focused mostly on playing with the 25mm and 35mm which had an extremely low amount of breathing and seemed very contrasty while showing little/no distortion to my eyes.

I look forward with great anticipation to the 18mm which I hope will share the same barrel length (and weight) as the 25mm and 35mm. Then you only need to re-adjust your Matte Box when jumping from 35mm to 50mm. Hopefully the 40mm is also long/bigger... that way when you use wides you have quick "access" to a longer normal length which may work very well for CUs in many rooms.
 
I do want to emphasize what I said in my review - that the negative points about the RPPs really are minor. The ingrown focus gear, for example. It's a bummer that it does require a little jimmying under certain situations, but ultimately it's a very minor issue. I keep cracking wise about the Ferrari's upholstery for a reason. :)
 
is the fujinon zoom a heavy beast?

more interesting:

will the small fujinon be light wight as an optimo rouge or heavy like the short cooke zoom?

thanks
 
Hi Matt,

Do you know when we'll see the frame grabs ?

Thanks

Antoine
 
Thank you all for the first insight into the long awaited SALT tests. I especially want to thank Brook for being so frank and impartial to the RPPs, I would have liked the others to tell us more about them either.

I think it's perfectly okay to brag and boast ones own product for marketing reasons - but even there should you not lie (in my opinion). But in such a test you have to enforce the testers to be painfully honest and open about your own products, else the test is kinda useless to your own customers (like so many Microsoft financed tests btw.). In this respect I'm happy about the results so far and RED has nothing to be ashamed of as I see:emote_popcorn: ... now let's see the hard facts.
 
I'd like to post an open question to all the guys involved in these tests:

Out of all the sets of primes you guys tested, which ones had the worst/best chromatic aberration?
 
Brook Willard said:
How much harder can we be? We were all very honest about our reviews.
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You don't have to, as I already stated and I thank you for it.


What sort of "facts" are you hoping to hear?
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The ones that were announced, numbers, figures, pics :coolgleamA:

As a crude generalization, it seemed that the sharper the lens, the more chromatic aberration it had
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Yeah I noticed this too, but if it's barely noticeable then we can live with it I guess.
 
Thanks, guys, really interesting read! I'd love to see some charts and flare tests, etc.

Hopefully on your next test, you can include MPs and maybe some more modded still lenses, or just still lenses mounted via Nikon or Canon. It's a shame the 14-24 didn't work out this time due to a damaged unit.

To me, what's interesting is seeing a $1,500 still lens matched against a $25,000 cinema lens, just in terms of optics (leaving aside still vs cinema mechanical issues.)

Again, great thread.
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I'd be happy with just getting the numbers for now. But this is a good point.

Tom said:
Hopefully on your next test, you can include MPs and maybe some more modded still lenses, or just still lenses mounted via Nikon or Canon. It's a shame the 14-24 didn't work out this time due to a damaged unit.
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It is a great idea. While we are still waiting for measurable results from the first set of tests I think if a SALT 2 ever took place it would be very wise to include the Brieger compatible lenses too! All L series Canons at least, and including in the testing the way their motors responded for focus pulling, even if not measured in any way. The Ruby would certainly be a must after the even longer throw gets added. MPs... well, you know.

I totally forgot about Duclos' figures. Please share those as soon as you guys get a chance... don't worry about format if that is what's holding them back.
 
I've got Matt's numbers sitting here on my desk. I'll toss them into a chart and make a new thread.

I'll get in touch with Evin to see about getting the stills and footage posted. It's been too long!
 
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