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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

ROOM, beyond incredible... Shot on Dragon and Panavision lenses.

Terrific all around!

To be honest, I was so involved with the story that I hardly noticed the the quality of the visual images - it was a beautiful film, though. I was fortunate enough to see it at the Mill Valley Film Festival with Brie Larson and Lenny Abrahamsson there to discuss the film.

IMO, the acting was incredible, especially Larson and the young boy (Jason Tremblay).

The Revenant may have been bigger and grander but this was a far better film.
 
Best film I've seen this season.
Shame because so few are choosing this sleeper with all the other big movies out.
 
While I really enjoyed the first half of the movie, the second one *minor spoilers ahead* was too "feel good"'y for my taste. I expected a darker ending.
 
I'm starting to be able to pick Dragon footage by its look. It's hard to tell on my phone but is there something pastel going on here with dragon footage that was not in the original reptile demo footage?

Is the Dragon sensor pure Bayer or does it have complimentary elements to it?

There are versions of the Bayer sensor where the second green pixel is replaced with blue-green or white, for better ability, and other greater than Bayer sensor patterns are possible. If this is the result a colorist would simply just tune the color to how they want anyway. But at the moment it is a nice new look. A 5 or 6 color scheme eventually might improve color pickup range. But don't take this as negative, it helps the footage, and colorist, reach areas they couldn't reach before for a more natural rendition. But it has to be handled to style desired, like most color.
 
Wayne Morellini said:
I'm starting to be able to pick Dragon footage by its look. It's hard to tell on my phone but is there something pastel going on here with dragon footage that was not in the original reptile demo footage?
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I think a pastel / not-pastel thing would largely be a decision made in final color-correction, not in the camera itself. However, there is a characteristic look to Canon material, Red footage, Alexa shots, and even Sony F55 shows. They don't look the same, but they can all look good if they're shot well. So far for 2015, I worked on projects with all of these cameras, and I was most surprised by the F55 material, which looked far better than I expected it too. That's a very clean camera.

I did some Varicam projects a few years ago but not with the current Varicam 35. Note that the Sony F55 is half the price of the Panasonic Varicam 35 (at least for the straight camera without accessories).
 
I've seen similar on a number of dragon shots. I've noticed a tendacy of people to use red footage close to the original but boosted. So I thought this might be the case.

It is a look, but in this case it is a doll house, creepy look for me.
 
There is in camera biasing down to the pixel level, and I just noticed in one of the last scenes the fluorescent color on his shirt is way boosted compared to the rest of the scene. But the rest of the scene seem to be in a normal dragon range by examples I saw years ago. So it is possible that the sensor is boosting in a less than true proportional way. Hence, if all color is boosted x units, as you get to the top the color does not squeeze it tops out. There probably is a combination of birth happening, otherwise it will be too easy to loose tonality gradients. Maybe it is the color correction instead. But I think I understand something better now. With the JVC HD1, we got some pretty nice images, unless you walked inside, but it suffered from bright colors being way brighter than the rest of the scene, its only let down apart from lack of manual, 4:2:2/4:4:4 12 bit, stunning low light ability 4k, 600mb/s+ h264 intra etc etc. So it is likely that sensir was natively as dull in day time as in low light, but it was boosted a lot. Anyway, whichever way, it probably is similar to how Alexa etc etc do it, and we should be very grateful that these cameras are this much better now.
 
I have a personal connection to the film as my lead in our latest feature Juliana & The Medicine Fish is Emma Tremblay, Jacob's older sister. For those who are unaware, Jocob Tremblay is the kid in Room, and he's now just 9 years old.

She is in her own right an amazing actor. Her dad coaches both her and Jake, both of whom were on set with us this fall as Room was taking off in the festivals. Amazing family, very grounded, and insanely talented. A particular source of pride is the fact they're Canadian, as is the movie (actually an Irish-CDN co-pro). Very well done, but was interested to read this as when I watched it I assumed it was Arri...we shot our film on Dragons with Cooke's and it definitely doesn't look like it was shot on Red (I hope that descriptor goes away soon!)
 
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