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Resolve (11) advice requested

Petri Teittinen

Petri Teittinen

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First things first: I'm a Resolve newbie who did muddle through the relevant portions of the manual, but still can't wrap his head around keyframes and the use of stored grades (in the form of Stills).

I'm hoping some kind soul could give me some advice on how to proceed with this.

Here's the problem. One 2-minute long shot, camera travelling inside a house from room to room. One of the rooms has lighting quite different from the other rooms. I need to build a gently transforming grade for when the camera enters that room, and another transformation for when the camera exits the room.

Now, I have two grades stored as Stills in the Gallery: #1 for all the other rooms and #2 for this one room only. I've tried setting up dynamic keyframes on the timeline so Resolve would "morph" from grade #1 to #2 and then back to #1 again, but I just can't get it to work; the grade I use at a keyframe affects the entire timeline and not just from that keyframe onwards. I have a nagging feeling this might be caused by me trying to make it happen using a single node only.

What am I doing wrong here? (Probably a lot.)

Thank you for any advice you might have for me.
 
A key frame is a static or dynamic target point, something happens at or between key frame points, on a given layer or node.

Make sure you set key frames to dynamic, set one point where you want a change to start and one point where you want the change to finish.
 
Shiblon Wixom said:
A key frame is a static or dynamic target point, something happens at or between key frame points, on a given layer or node.

Make sure you set key frames to dynamic, set one point where you want a change to start and one point where you want the change to finish.
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Yes, that's what I did; sorry for not being clearer in my post. I followed the user guide and set dynamic points like that, but when I apply grade #2 at the target point, BOOM, the grade is applied evenly to the entire timeline. Nothing changes between the points because the whole timeline is now using the grade I tried to apply as the target.
 
Petri Teittinen said:
Yes, that's what I did; sorry for not being clearer in my post. I followed the user guide and set dynamic points like that, but when I apply grade #2 at the target point, BOOM, the grade is applied evenly to the entire timeline. Nothing changes between the points because the whole timeline is now using the grade I tried to apply as the target.
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Petri does the grade have to be in gradual time?

Can you not edit the clip to portions then color?

Just throwing workarounds here :)
 
Yes that would work but if anyone knows the answer on how to do it on resolve id like to know too
 
Bob Gundu said:
As Eric said, a cheat is to make an edit so you have two clips and two grades, and cross dissolve transition them.
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Yeah, I actually did that already in Premiere just to get it done, but would love to find a solution that works in Resolve.
 
You need to go to the "key tab", select the transition / opacity between the two dynamic keyframes. You can choose to apply all that to whatever node you like. I suggest to take a look at ripple trainings´ Resolve tutorial, I enjoyed that very much. HTH

Cheers

Ulf
 
Ulf Krentz said:
You need to go to the "key tab", select the transition / opacity between the two dynamic keyframes. You can choose to apply all that to whatever node you like. I suggest to take a look at ripple trainings´ Resolve tutorial, I enjoyed that very much. HTH

Cheers

Ulf
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I'll check that out, too. Thanks for posting, Ulf!
 
Bob Gundu said:
My suggestion was to do that in Resolve as it has NLE type features now too.
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Sure. I'm just not at all familiar with its NLE toolkit yet, and since Premiere's been my go-to NLE for yonks, I fell back on it for this. Guess I'll spend some time with Resolve's NLE features next. Thanks Bob.

edit: It was actually very easy to do this in Resolve by cutting the long shot into three clips, grading them separately, then slapping on a dissolve on top of the cuts. Cheers Bob!
 
There is no need for a workaround for something that is working correctly. First of all, you can't set the grade, set a keyframe and apply a new grade from a still to that keyframe. It will blow the old grade away along with the keyframe. That is how it is designed to work. I wish you could do it, but it's not possible at this point.
So, in order to use the gradual change of grade from one keyframe to the other you first need to set a first keyframe and adjust the grade to taste. Then go the begging of the next desired change and set the dynamic keyframe. You then should see a long thick white line connecting both keyframes. If you still see just two keyframes, you not using the dynamic keyframe. It must be dynamic, otherwise the color will just pop at a keyframe. So, now when you see the long white line in the keyframe display, you can park anywhere in the timeline past the second keyframe and adjust the grade for the second grade. Push play and enjoy your morphing grades. That is it. Pretty simple actually.
 
jake blackstone said:
So, in order to use the gradual change of grade from one keyframe to the other you first need to set a first keyframe and adjust the grade to taste. Then go the begging of the next desired change and set the dynamic keyframe. You then should see a long thick white line connecting both keyframes. If you still see just two keyframes, you not using the dynamic keyframe. It must be dynamic, otherwise the color will just pop at a keyframe. So, now when you see the long white line in the keyframe display, you can park anywhere in the timeline past the second keyframe and adjust the grade for the second grade. Push play and enjoy your morphing grades. That is it. Pretty simple actually.
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Thanks Jake. I thought that's what I was doing, i.e. using two dynamic keyframes. But if I understood correctly, you're saying I can't apply grades from stills to dynamic keyframes (or anywhere on the timeline past the second keyframe)?
 
Petri Teittinen said:
Thanks Jake. I thought that's what I was doing, i.e. using two dynamic keyframes. But if I understood correctly, you're saying I can't apply grades from stills to dynamic keyframes (or anywhere on the timeline past the second keyframe)?
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Yes you can't apply saved grade to a keyframe. In that case it will replace the whole grade including keyframes.
 
Petri Teittinen said:
Thanks Jake. I thought that's what I was doing, i.e. using two dynamic keyframes. But if I understood correctly, you're saying I can't apply grades from stills to dynamic keyframes (or anywhere on the timeline past the second keyframe)?
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That's correct. That's a big change from the way daVinci 2K works and Resolve works: the keyframed events don't hold colors per se. About all you can do is grab a still and then manually match the still.

If it's one long, long continuous shot with many dozens of keyframes, I'll cheat and just imperceptibly slice up the timeline when I get a chance, just to make list management easier.

Before you start a project this complex, it's a wise idea to sit with the manual for a few days (maybe longer -- it's 850 pages) and/or go through an entire tutorial to grasp when keyframes will work and when they won't work.
 
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