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RED versus CANON

Sorry but whatever you're trying to illustrate is pretty lost without context. :huh:
 
I shoot with a 5d and I will confidently say that the scarlet footage in that video looked way better. But then again, we have no idea what the picture profile/etc was on the dslr, and what the settings of both cameras were.
 
FYI Your Canon DSLR has a dead/hot pixel.

For your demo, you could also film scene with more contrast, faster pan, buildings with brick walls...

Pat
 
It is all about details - nothing else. But as I see comments pretty much no one watching it in 1080P :)
If you watch 480P - it looks almost identical.

This is why Canon still sell a lots of DSLRs :))) God bless youtube :)
 
This proves what exactly?

This proves what exactly?

I know we are all sick of charts but it would be a lot more informative if you put a Chroma Du Monde, Macbeth or best of all the DSC RED Cambook in the shot. I say this because those charts contain known colors. Were the flowers more red or more purple? If they were more on the red side then the Canon has more accurate color reproduction, if they were more purplish then the Scarlet, etc.

Moreover, if you shot RAW color space on both cameras what was the RAW developer you used? Photoshop for the Canon and RCXPro for the Scarlet? The choices made when creating the RGB derived image could easily have more impact on the images posted than the cameras used.

Cheers - #19
 
Balir, you can't shoot Raw Canon footage. At 1080p the difference is astounding in the above video.
 
Of course, we have no idea what was done to process the footage. If the Canon appears "sharper," so what? Canon footage tends to be sharpened in the camera. If a the RED footage was left alone, or otherwise treated poorly, it could easily look like shit. Again, without context it's a pretty useless exercise.
 
This video clearly show how many details we can't see shooting with DSLR's.

And again it is not an official test - I just made it to show that DSLR video has HUGE LACK OF DETAILS and USELESS for serious production. That's it.
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
I was thinking Canon stills in RAW vs R3Ds.

In any case the Scarlet footage had to be processed into RGB imagery at some point and that is still a salient issue.

Cheers - #19
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Sort of mistake :) We always working with R3D - no conversion needed. Technically it is doable but ANY conversion of R3D to any other format during editing or post production actually a huge mistake in RED workflow. Before rendering finals we always have to use original source R3D's.
 
I think Blair's point may have been that R3Ds essentially can't be "seen" at all (since they are raw) until they are placed into a color space, which requires a "translation" or "interpretation."
 
Terry VerHaar said:
I think Blair's point may have been that R3Ds essentially can't be "seen" at all (since they are raw) until they are placed into a color space, which requires a "translation" or "interpretation."
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This is one of my favorite explanations of RED workflow, all time. Every producer should be given this.
 
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Martin Weiss said:
I always make my camera decision based on small youtube videos.
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LOL! Funniest quote from moderator in a while !

Funny I recon all the DLSR fans will go with the colorful Canon, without really understanding whats going on.....like lighting who needs CC !
 
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Dmitry Burenok said:
This video clearly show how many details we can't see shooting with DSLR's.

And again it is not an official test - I just made it to show that DSLR video has HUGE LACK OF DETAILS and USELESS for serious production. That's it.
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I wouldn't say its useless, there have been entire features shot with them. (Rubber, Like Crazy, Tiny Furniture, etc). But RED's are certainly at least a thousand times more useful.
 
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