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RED SCARLET 120FPS TEST - different EF lences

I'm curious to see if anybody has successfully tried to sharpen 120fps in post and integrated it with the rest of their video - 1080p I would assume.
 
Jason Ano said:
I'm curious to see if anybody has successfully tried to sharpen 120fps in post and integrated it with the rest of their video - 1080p I would assume.
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I do it all the time. Every week almost.

All the slows in this are 120fps 1k Scarlet. The rest of the vid is 4k Scarlet (except the onboards).

I have no problem with it at all. Lowest compression, expose as far to the right as possible (most important), sharp lens. Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Omh07iyIfnU
 
I would think the internet re-compression would save your butt... Generally when you look at the r3ds directly out of the camera, the difference is disheartening... I mean, even comparing 2k to 4k is a tough pill to swallow before your final delivery codec/res.
 
I'd also like to weigh in on this. We also shot a 120fps test, with firecrackers and our d.p's unknowing girlfriend. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj_866J1XfY

120fps on the Scarlet is unusable if you're wanting to project on a big screen. For web stuff, sure.. it's fine, but even looking at the raw files and sharpening, it's still soft. Too soft. Also, a lesson we learned was to overexpose, when shooting anything but 4k on our Scarlet. That helps deal with the noise issue. Hopefully that's not disheartening to anyone with high expectations to shooting slow mo on a Scarlet, I can tell you that the smile on my face and my d.p's was genuine seeing a firecracker blow up at 120fps.
 
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Would you say at 120 fps you need to use the lowest compression settings even if the distribution path is only vimeo or youtube? also if you don't transcode to proxies but cut native r3d files and then output at the best settings you can for the internet distribution website, do you think that could hypothetically let you get away with not necessarily shooting 3 to 1 compression?


What are you finding to be the best output files from your NLE to the internet delivery system with this? I am looking to cut in Avid MC6 by AMA linking and cutting natively (yellow/yellow) with Avid probably, or maybe even I'll update my Ppro. Just looking to make my slowmos crisp as possible without ideally needing 32tb of storage for a 1 min (when edited) demo reel... Vimeo sucks for limiting the bandwidth per week, I don't care if it takes me a week to upload to youtube I just want to give them the least lossy codec they accept so when they compress the living shit out of it, hopefully it doesn't get entirely soft. Youtube has let me upload giant files lately, gigs and gigs when I tweak the bit rates. I put a 4k file on youtube that took days to upload through cable too!

I am going to be putting a lot of 120 stuff up over the next few months, probably make a different youtube account just to throw test shots up to show around on reduser. I am going to be shooting Nikon at 120fps tomorrow if Fedex stops screwing with me. (apparently the buzzer for my building is busted, but the doors busted too so wtf, he might as well still deliver the damned mount!)

:banghead:
 
I used 120 on web videos, it's useable for web alone IMO, but no question if you are watching even 2k@48 cut with 1k@120 that there is a drastic drop in resolution, i cringe when I see it uncompressed. Only have used it 3:1 because I am trying to get all the help possible windowing the sensor that drastically. All the example i've seen fall in line with the results I have been getting.

It is a fun feature to have just in case I suppose, the more options the better!
 
Well I think there is other factors too. I will shoot 3 to 1 if I need to but I wonder if the proper export settings and cutting the r3d files natively could help retain more quality, and what would be the best image quality deliverable for youtube out of Avid/Premiere codec and setting wise? Like you, I want the utmost in image quality with what I am doing, but I am trying to anticipate what my storage needs might be as I go about trying to do some overcrank montages. I might actually have to put all this on the back burner for a month and half but I still intend to do some 120fps when I finish this new thing I just got wind of. I look forward to 120 a lot though.. I was lucky enough to shoot Epic last May before the Scarlet was out and fell in love in off speed shooting
 
I think it looks great but....

I was wondering if there was any way of getting rid of the border that appears on the top and bottom once its been transcoded?

Thanks

Sam
 
Scarlet can shoot 16/9 not just WS at 120fps. I personally like the WS more, if anything I want to crop it in post to make it even skinnier with even less vertical image!! bring on the black lines!
 
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